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post #1 of 19 Old 05-13-2015, 03:52 PM Thread Starter
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Exclamation HRV Pricing Analysis - Here We Go Folks! Buyer Beware!

So here is a good example of things to come:

http://www.crownhonda.com/new-Tampa+...RU5H58GM703646

Crown Honda in FL claims the following:

2016 Honda HR-V EX
MSRP: $22,845
*Sale Price: $22,240
Discount: - $605

I see no reference to CVT so I imagine its a 6MT and there is no reference to AWD so especially in FL, it is probably a FWD.

Then this is the best part:
"*All prices plus sales tax, tag, and titling, and dealer service fee of $697.00, which represents cost and profits to the selling dealer for items such as cleaning, inspecting, adjusting vehicles and preparing documents related to the sale."
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The Document Fee of $697 is almost a wash with the Discount.
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Definitely! BUT, if it is as it appears a 2WD manual transmission from the description, but their MSRP makes it sound like a 2WD CVT.

So they are still selling it ABOVE MSRP. LOLOLOL


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Definitely! BUT, if it is as it appears a 2WD manual transmission from the description, but their MSRP makes it sound like a 2WD CVT.

So they are still selling it ABOVE MSRP. LOLOLOL
Where does it say or suggest in the description that it is a manual?
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Where does it say or suggest in the description that it is a manual?
thats what I'm thinking. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck it probabaly is a duck. If its priced like a CVT it probably is a CVT... I think in this day and age they're more likely to point it out as manual for people to stay away....
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thats what I'm thinking. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck it probabaly is a duck. If its priced like a CVT it probably is a CVT... I think in this day and age they're more likely to point it out as manual for people to stay away....
That last point may be true as its been proven most americans don't want manual transmission cars, reason for the dying manual.
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Very true! And in this case looks like its priced $100 over MSRP.

Not bad!

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That last point may be true as its been proven most americans don't want manual transmission cars, reason for the dying manual.
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After decoding the VIN from the ad, this is what came up:

2016 Honda HR-V 2WD 4dr CVT EX

VIN: 3CZRU5H58GM703646
MSRP
$21,965.00
Invoice
$21,360.40
Destination Charge
$880.00


They are adding the destination charge to what they call MSRP, to get to the $22,845.00

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Sounds about right! So they are about $100 over MSRP.
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Huh? Okay now I'm totally confused. First you state you think its a manual and ridicule how much it is over MSRP, and now you're agreeing that it is a CVT and saying the price over MSRP is not bad, then you post a sad face.

Lol. Either way, yes, it is a CVT. You go by the MSRP listed on their site. And if you're still skeptical, just run the VIN number, which is also listed on their site at the handy website link Denver Dude listed and you'll see it is indeed a 2WD EX CVT.

What the dealer did is not surprising at all. They always advertise a discount somewhere in big letters to get people to come and then add some fee elsewhere, usually in the fine print, hoping you won't see it or care to see it when ready to sign the paperwork. Expect it more than not.

What's important (to me anyways) is the bottom line. Many people are not good at math, so the dealers get by with this kind of lolligagging, but I can add and subtract big numbers on the fly, so my eyes always look at the sum while ears stay pretty much deaf to their price gymnastics. I don't care how they do it. If the total of what I pay matches or falls below or at MSRP + Destination + Tax/License then we're good.
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