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post #41 of 50 Old 01-18-2015, 08:00 PM
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No problem guys, glad to help.

I test drove the HRV at the Homebush Honda dealership on the corner of Parramatta Rd and Bridge Rd Homebush. Spoke to a guy named Darren who was really knowledgable - he mentioned that he'd been down to Melbourne with the design team and actually provided feedback on design elements. It was nice to deal with someone who actually just let the car speak for itself. Not a sales pitch to be seen anywhere.

They had a bunch there that were being test driven and Darren mentioned that he'd already sold one just before we arrived.

As for other vehicles in the class, I've done a bunch of research which narrowed down the list to the XV, the CX-5, the Mitsubishi Outlander as well as some Jeep models which were quickly removed from the list after checking some reviews. Personal preference for me means I'm avoiding purchasing a Holden. There's no real rational reason here other than the fact that I think I can get better resale value down the line with a Subaru/Honda plus the design lines of the two cars I've mentioned just seem a little more masculine.

I'm not exactly a 'car head' if you know what I mean but from the day I spent visiting the dealerships, nothing really jumped out as far as looks and practicality as much as the XV and the HRV.

The CX-5 is a great vehicle but is probably a little too expensive for my budget, not to mention that it definitely reeks a little too much of 'soccer mum' for mine.

My sister has a CX-5 that I drove and it's a really nice ride, the smoothness was reminiscent of the HRV to be honest. You really notice that Skyactiv technology when you're on the road. It makes it feel like a far smaller car - you really float along.

And look, I totally agree that we're spoilt for choice in the segment. There have been moments where I've really felt overwhelmed with the options available. One thing I didn't mention earlier is that another factor to consider for me is whether or not it's a good idea to be buying a car without a proven track record, even though I thoroughly enjoyed the test drive and loved the car.
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No problem guys, glad to help.

I test drove the HRV at the Homebush Honda dealership on the corner of Parramatta Rd and Bridge Rd Homebush. Spoke to a guy named Darren who was really knowledgable - he mentioned that he'd been down to Melbourne with the design team and actually provided feedback on design elements. It was nice to deal with someone who actually just let the car speak for itself. Not a sales pitch to be seen anywhere.

They had a bunch there that were being test driven and Darren mentioned that he'd already sold one just before we arrived.

As for other vehicles in the class, I've done a bunch of research which narrowed down the list to the XV, the CX-5, the Mitsubishi Outlander as well as some Jeep models which were quickly removed from the list after checking some reviews. Personal preference for me means I'm avoiding purchasing a Holden. There's no real rational reason here other than the fact that I think I can get better resale value down the line with a Subaru/Honda plus the design lines of the two cars I've mentioned just seem a little more masculine.

I'm not exactly a 'car head' if you know what I mean but from the day I spent visiting the dealerships, nothing really jumped out as far as looks and practicality as much as the XV and the HRV.

The CX-5 is a great vehicle but is probably a little too expensive for my budget, not to mention that it definitely reeks a little too much of 'soccer mum' for mine.

My sister has a CX-5 that I drove and it's a really nice ride, the smoothness was reminiscent of the HRV to be honest. You really notice that Skyactiv technology when you're on the road. It makes it feel like a far smaller car - you really float along.

And look, I totally agree that we're spoilt for choice in the segment. There have been moments where I've really felt overwhelmed with the options available. One thing I didn't mention earlier is that another factor to consider for me is whether or not it's a good idea to be buying a car without a proven track record, even though I thoroughly enjoyed the test drive and loved the car.
Always good to hear from someone who has actually driven one. Thanks.
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No problem guys, glad to help.

I test drove the HRV at the Homebush Honda dealership on the corner of Parramatta Rd and Bridge Rd Homebush. Spoke to a guy named Darren who was really knowledgable - he mentioned that he'd been down to Melbourne with the design team and actually provided feedback on design elements. It was nice to deal with someone who actually just let the car speak for itself. Not a sales pitch to be seen anywhere.

They had a bunch there that were being test driven and Darren mentioned that he'd already sold one just before we arrived.

As for other vehicles in the class, I've done a bunch of research which narrowed down the list to the XV, the CX-5, the Mitsubishi Outlander as well as some Jeep models which were quickly removed from the list after checking some reviews. Personal preference for me means I'm avoiding purchasing a Holden. There's no real rational reason here other than the fact that I think I can get better resale value down the line with a Subaru/Honda plus the design lines of the two cars I've mentioned just seem a little more masculine.

I'm not exactly a 'car head' if you know what I mean but from the day I spent visiting the dealerships, nothing really jumped out as far as looks and practicality as much as the XV and the HRV.

The CX-5 is a great vehicle but is probably a little too expensive for my budget, not to mention that it definitely reeks a little too much of 'soccer mum' for mine.

My sister has a CX-5 that I drove and it's a really nice ride, the smoothness was reminiscent of the HRV to be honest. You really notice that Skyactiv technology when you're on the road. It makes it feel like a far smaller car - you really float along.

And look, I totally agree that we're spoilt for choice in the segment. There have been moments where I've really felt overwhelmed with the options available. One thing I didn't mention earlier is that another factor to consider for me is whether or not it's a good idea to be buying a car without a proven track record, even though I thoroughly enjoyed the test drive and loved the car.
Definitely give the XV a test drive. I generally prefer the drive of Subaru but find their interior design quite lacking.

The cx5 is one size bracket up from the hrv. Maybe have a wait to look at the cx3 which launches in march? The Skoda yeti would also be in your price bracket with lots of features thrown in. But resale will be poor.

Also be aware of service intervals. Honda is one of the only manufacturers which require 6 monthly intervals for service. Annoying since the exact same cars sold overseas do not have this requirement.

Got a call from my local dealer who organised a test drive for tomorrow. Will see how it goes.
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Hi, what about the suspension ? Is it comfortable on roads in the city with manholes and so on ? I read some reviews of Honda Vezel and some reviewers were concerned about the stiffness of the car.
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So took the Australian spec HRV Vti-L for a test drive:


The renders and promotional material are really a disservice to how the vehicle looks. It is a very modern and smart looking vehicle especially with the jewel headlight and tube tail light clusters. The character line across the side panelling is far less jarring when seen in person and fits the vehicle well. The ruse black is beautiful with a slight grey/purple hue however I would have liked the purple to be more prominent which would have looked truly unique on the road.


The interior finish exceeded my expectations. I was surprised that essentially the entire upper half of the doors in both the front and back were soft to touch. The material used for the forward dash, edges of the centre console and adjustable front arm rest are a firmer material but soft to touch as well. Silver accents stand out superbly from the contrast of dark materials throughout the cabin. However while the abundance of glossy black looks nice it is a notable fingerprint magnet and may be prone to scratches. I became particularly enamoured by the speedometer which has a concave design to the dials creating a sense of depth and the illusion of the needle seemingly floating above the markers. The front cupholders are dynamic and can adjust easily to become a large storage compartment using a unique folding mechanism which almost doubles its depth. The rear magic seats perform their usual wizardry but also provide the ability to recline further back for comfort. I'm 5 foot 10 inches and found headroom and legroom in the back to be generous even with the front seats pushed back all the way... except for the rear centre seat which saw my hair brushing the roof line, a problem not present in models without the panoramic sunroof. I was quite pleased the sunshade for the sunroof is completely opaque and blocks all light to keep the cabin cool when closed unlike some manufacturers who insist on a 'translucent' type finish. The boot is large with a minimal lip allowing you to drag luggage easily in and out however there are no shopping bag hooks which seem almost like a standard feature for this vehicle class. Materials used for the boot lip and lower bumper are a rougher matte plastic which should hide scuffs easily. Disappointingly the boot/cabin divider is a cheap piece of fabric with a flexible wire frame which does not retract or rise (but can be removed). Use of touch controls for the climate control appear nice but are less practical when driving. The glove box is also very small and not climate controlled despite the multitude of vents located directly above it. The air vents on the passenger side are designed to try and provide more air to the rear passengers by varying airflow speed laterally but it was hard to direct them to do so accordingly. There are no dedicated air vents for the rear passengers and the rear armrest was very short. Also the latch for opening the front passenger centre armrest cubby becomes hidden when you adjust the armrest forward meaning you have to retract the arm rest each time you want to open it, a flaw not present in other vehicles with this feature.


Unfortunately, while the exterior and interior finish exceeded my expectations the drive did not. The 1.8L engine feels adequate for the most part but is far from inspiring when pushed. While driving on level roads the gearbox provides a pleasant smoothness to the ride. However on steep inclines the CVT and engine creates a whine which is not matched with any significant improvement in your speed (and this is just with two passengers with no luggage). I cannot help but feel this vehicle would do better with Honda’s newer earth dreams direct injection engines and their 7 speed DSG. Nevertheless it is still superior to the Suzuki S-Cross's woefully underpowered 1.6L engine and CVT. Suspension is firm but not overly harsh like the BMW 2AT or Mini Countryman. Nevertheless bumps were felt throughout the cabin when driving along a rough concrete road which the Holden Trax and S-Cross seemingly handled better. Hitting a manhole provided a definite shudder. While ride firmness is somewhat forgivable for stability of a taller body (or greater sportiness) the reality was on curvy roads at moderate speed there was noticeable body roll. The body roll was not as bad as the Trax but a definitely worse than other vehicles I had test driven on the same route. On the plus side the A-pillars are thin enough to minimise forward blind spots and the enlarged C Pillars are less of an issue with the impressive lane watch blind spot camera. Seats were supportive with good lumbar support despite it not being adjustable and the driving position was spot on.


While the fit and finish was excellent I felt the drive did let it down. We drove the base model Skoda Yeti directly after the HRV and difference in drive quality was quite notable with the Skoda outperforming the HRV in practically every way. For close to AUD$40K for the top of line model I would also expect navigation to be part of the package. Its exclusion in the Australian market is unfortunate and the phone app integration inadequate. So all in all, a bit of a mixed bag. Not quite a hit but not quite a miss either.


I took a few photos, mostly of things I didn't think you could find photos of elsewhere:


Dynamic front cup holders/cubby (transition from large cubby to cup holders):
http://i.imgur.com/MVJoiqO.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qUsmva3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oLHqOlU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KdV8kw7.jpg


Concave Dial Design
http://i.imgur.com/rM8txXv.jpg


Rear Bottle holder with power outlet
http://i.imgur.com/Evq3TDJ.jpg


Centre Cubby and Glove Box
http://imgur.com/AfGJOno.jpg
http://imgur.com/kyAceIg.jpg


Two levels of recline for back seats
http://i.imgur.com/zSnxPOF.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CPM3NJF.jpg


Boot/Cabin Divider
http://i.imgur.com/URuvLl2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9LLiYLQ.jpg


Exterior
http://i.imgur.com/EsAqDkg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/kGJHvCw.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/e4RTY0Q.jpg




For fantastic professional shots of the cars interior and exterior I found this Thai review:
http://www.grandprix.co.th/gpinews/honda-hr-v-%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%B5%E0%B 9%89-%E0%B8%9C%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%B5%E0%B9%88%E0%B 8%8A%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%9A%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%A5%E0%B8%A2-%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%A2/
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Thanks for the excellent and honest review. Great pictures!


One thought is I am glad I will not have the panoramic roof on the LX. Even the sunroof on the US version will take some headroom away and the extra weight would tax the power of this car. (Not as much as the huge panoramic roof, of course). This accounts for the fact that the EX and EX-L have 4 cubic feet less passenger volume.

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Speaking of the US sunroofs....this is the best photo I have seen thus far.


Oops.....I have been notified that this is the sunroof from the CR-V. My bad.....sorry.

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NinjaPanda, thank you for your detailed review. I think it's a good reminder to those of us here in NA to be brought back down to reality with this vehicles. We've been teased so much for so long it's natural to build up in our minds this car we're all really excited about and gloss over that (at least here) that it's going to be an entry level vehicle and won't be without it's faults.
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NinjaPanda, thank you for your detailed review. I think it's a good reminder to those of us here in NA to be brought back down to reality with this vehicles. We've been teased so much for so long it's natural to build up in our minds this car we're all really excited about and gloss over that (at least here) that it's going to be an entry level vehicle and won't be without it's faults.

Not glossing over anything here. It is just that are seeing so many pictures of the upper level vehicles we have a pretty good idea what they will be like. We don't know much about the entry vehicle, but I have no illusions that I won't find something I may not like there too. (The one picture of the "mule" we do have seems like a very plain interior , for example. We don't know if that is the final look for the LX either).


Going by official information from Honda, the EX and EX-L have 4 cubic feet less passenger space.


"2016 HR-V Key Packaging Specifications
Wheelbase, in.102.8
Length, in.169.1
Width, in.69.8
Height, in.63.2
Passenger volume, cu. ft.100.1 (LX), 96.1 (EX, EX-L)
Cargo volume, cu. ft.24.3 rear seats up,58.8 rear seats down
Seating capacity 5"


Seems the only place that space could be eaten up is by the sunroof/moonroof. Or does someone have another guess where that space went?

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My apologies for the sunroof picture. It was early in the morning and I mistook a CR-V for an HR-V picture.


Still, it could illustrate the headroom loss in any vehicle with an opening sunroof.
Something to consider if you will routinely have tall passengers. And if there is any concern about the car being underpowered, anything that can be skipped to lessen weight would be good in my book.


But others really love sunroofs so I can see them not doing without it for any reason. They are a cool feature.

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