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Car won't start after sitting for 7 days

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I bought my HR-V 2020 Sport in October and I've already had to jump start it twice. Each time was after not using it for what I consider to be a reasonable amount of days : 1st time I hadn't used it for 11 days, the 2nd time I hadn't used it for 7 days.
The car dealer tells me it's normal, it's due to the accessories and electronics draining the battery and they recommend driving my car at least twice a week for 30min, but I find this to be exaggerated. I should be able to leave on vacation for a week (after Covid), come back and be able to start my car!
Have anybody left their HR-V sitting for over a week and if so did you have an issue starting it? Is this wide spread amoung all HR-V or is it just my car?
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I've never had this issue, parking 3 weeks at a time once or twice a year. The Honda factory battery is fair at best. I have a battery tester and check mine often. My last car was a 2007 Fit. It had a 151R battery. As soon as the battery warranty expired, I replaced it with a "huge" 51R (huge for a Fit). as soon as my factory battery tests less than excellent, it's gone!
The group size 51R battery has been around since at least the early 90's in Hondas, and I don't think it's going away any time soon. Sucks because modern cars have a lot more electronic components than they did back then!

I'll have to ask the engine guy on our team for specifics, but on one of our race cars (90-something Civic), he cut one of the signal wires on the alternator. With that wire cut, the alternator gave full output constantly, but we got a charging system fault error.
To fix that, he connected the end of the wire going to the ECM to a constant 5.0v or something. That told the ECM that the battery was fully-charged and to turn the alternator to low output.

Our 2006 TSX originally had the small 51R battery also.
Many battery complaints from TSX owners but ours lasted a long time with no issues.
I upgraded it with a larger battery many years ago. Super simple to do in a TSX.
Plus our TSX has an underdrive crank pulley.
However, (we have a Scangauge in our TSX also), the TSX charges constantly at 14V+ unlike the HRV.
I'm starting to think that this is a huge factor for the HRV.
I don't actually believe that the HRV has many electronics at all.

Another significant factor is geographic location. A weak battery in a Canadian winter wont start it.
A weak battery in Florida will likely start it.

The HRV charging circuit from the service manual.
The negative battery post connection is foolishly missing but it's connected to the 12V battery sensor.
One can see that the PCM (ECM) is controlling the alternator output.

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Our 2006 TSX originally had the small 51R battery also.
Many battery complaints from TSX owners but ours lasted a long time with no issues.
I upgraded it with a larger battery many years ago. Super simple to do in a TSX.
Plus our TSX has an underdrive crank pulley.
However, (we have a Scangauge in our TSX also), the TSX charges constantly at 14V+ unlike the HRV.
I'm starting to think that this is a huge factor for the HRV.
I don't actually believe that the HRV has many electronics at all.

Another significant factor is geographic location. A weak battery in a Canadian winter wont start it.
A weak battery in Florida will likely start it.

The HRV charging circuit from the service manual.
The negative battery post connection is foolishly missing but it's connected to the 12V battery sensor.
One can see that the PCM (ECM) is controlling the alternator output.

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I bought my HR-V 2020 Sport in October and I've already had to jump start it twice. Each time was after not using it for what I consider to be a reasonable amount of days : 1st time I hadn't used it for 11 days, the 2nd time I hadn't used it for 7 days.
The car dealer tells me it's normal, it's due to the accessories and electronics draining the battery and they recommend driving my car at least twice a week for 30min, but I find this to be exaggerated. I should be able to leave on vacation for a week (after Covid), come back and be able to start my car!
Have anybody left their HR-V sitting for over a week and if so did you have an issue starting it? Is this wide spread amoung all HR-V or is it just my car?
No problem after two weeks on my 2019 car. Did you only do very short runs before leaving the vehicle for 11 days? If so the battery may not have been fully charged when you left it. You can buy a voltmeter that plugs into the auxiliary power socket to easily keep an eye on the battery voltage.
Otherwise, you might have a parasitic battery drain? https://www.powertronbatteryco.com/how-to-diagnose-parasitic-drain-on-your-car-battery/
Our 2006 TSX originally had the small 51R battery also.
Many battery complaints from TSX owners but ours lasted a long time with no issues.
I upgraded it with a larger battery many years ago. Super simple to do in a TSX.
Plus our TSX has an underdrive crank pulley.
However, (we have a Scangauge in our TSX also), the TSX charges constantly at 14V+ unlike the HRV.
I'm starting to think that this is a huge factor for the HRV.
I don't actually believe that the HRV has many electronics at all.

Another significant factor is geographic location. A weak battery in a Canadian winter wont start it.
A weak battery in Florida will likely start it.

The HRV charging circuit from the service manual.
The negative battery post connection is foolishly missing but it's connected to the 12V battery sensor.
One can see that the PCM (ECM) is controlling the alternator output.

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If you have a vehicle with Stop/Start it will have an Enhanced Cycle Mat technology battery, or Absorbent Glass Mat, which absolutely must not be charged at 14v+ unless it needs it.
Put the problem back to the to Dealership Take your car in for the 10 year/100,000 battery.
Man Honda changed battery agermanufacturers. Be sure to afexpress your disappointment and you might get a break on the cost. Remind your service
Manager that this problem has affected overall economy.
A month ago I came back from a week long vacation - my 2017 sat for 7 days, and then started right up-no problem.
its not the original battery - but it is a Honda one from the service dept. and about 2-1/2 years old.
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A month ago I came back from a week long vacation - my 2017 sat for 7 days, and then started right up-no problem.
its not the original battery - but it is a Honda one from the service dept. and about 2-1/2 years old.

The Honda service replacement battery (51R 500CCA) in our HRV was only 1.5years old when it died.
The much larger replacement battery in our HRV (124R 700CCA) has been perfect since I installed 13 months ago.
I have never used a trickle charger on our HRV and it's much colder here than New York!
If I ever have to use a trickle charger regularily on any vehicle, I would re-wire that entire vehicle. :)


I've just resigned myself to driving around with the HRV headlights on all the time and the alternator putting out 14V+.
If I turn the headlights off, the charge voltage immediately goes to 12.3V or so as detailed in numerous posts on this thread.
My wife is the primary driver of our HRV but I haven't told her to drive around with the head lights on.
She would never remember anyway!

I recommend for everyone to drive their HRV around with the head lights on all the time to keep the battery fully charged.
It seems counter-intuitive but a voltmeter tells the story.

I wonder if this strategy works for those that converted to LED head lights or a newer HRV with LED head lights?


We'll see how the larger battery in our HRV performs this winter.
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The Honda service replacement battery (51R 500CCA) in our HRV was only 1.5years old when it died.
The much larger replacement battery in our HRV (124R 700CCA) has been perfect since I installed 13 months ago.
I have never used a trickle charger on our HRV and it's much colder here than New York!
If I ever have to use a trickle charger regularily on any vehicle, I would re-wire that entire vehicle. :)


I've just resigned myself to driving around with the HRV headlights on all the time and the alternator putting out 14V+.
If I turn the headlights off, the charge voltage immediately goes to 12.3V or so as detailed in numerous posts on this thread.
My wife is the primary driver of our HRV but I haven't told her to drive around with the head lights on.
She would never remember anyway!

I recommend for everyone to drive their HRV around with the head lights on all the time to keep the battery fully charged.
It seems counter-intuitive but a voltmeter tells the story.

I wonder if this strategy works for those that converted to LED head lights or a newer HRV with LED head lights?


We'll see how the larger battery in our HRV performs this winter.
well there are reasons Honda shuts down the constant charging.... some maybe for alternator longevity etc.
124R ?? is that Canadian upgrade ?
well there are reasons Honda shuts down the constant charging.... some maybe for alternator longevity etc.
That is a fuel economy thing. It takes horsepower for the alternator to charge a battery.

When daytime running lights were first implemented by General Motors in the 1990s, they said that it 'cost' 1/2 - horsepower.
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well there are reasons Honda shuts down the constant charging.... some maybe for alternator longevity etc.
124R ?? is that Canadian upgrade ?

This thread and all the other HRV battery threads on this forum tell the HRV battery story.


Installing a much larger battery in our HRV, which was not simple as that thread shows, was the best solution that I came up with.
It's not a perfect solution by any stretch but so far so good.

We drive our HRV only in the winter and for all our ski trips. It gets cold here and in the mountains.
0F/-18C is a nice warm winter day here from Dec-March. :)

So far the larger battery in our HRV has performed perfectly, but it's only been 13 months and 1 winter.
Only time will tell if the larger battery in our HRV is a suitable solution.

As was mentioned by another member, a trunkload of batteries will eventually go dead if you don't charge them at the proper voltage.
Which is the reason for driving around the HRV with the headlights on all the time.

It's all a bit crazy for a couple of lines of lame software code in the HRV ECM program!

As another member once posted, "We love the little HRV but it's not perfect".
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a trunkload of batteries will eventually go dead
Do you think this Renault Dauphine suffered from parasitic drain? :rolleyes::ROFLMAO:

Automotive parking light Vehicle Vehicle registration plate Grille Automotive tail & brake light


Actually, the car was adapted to electric drive, back in 1960.
Photo courtesy Lane Motor Museum in Nashville TN.
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This thread and all the other HRV battery threads on this forum tell the HRV battery story.


Installing a much larger battery in our HRV, which was not simple as that thread shows, was the best solution that I came up with.
It's not a perfect solution by any stretch but so far so good.

We drive our HRV only in the winter and for all our ski trips. It gets cold here and in the mountains.
0F/-18C is a nice warm winter day here from Dec-March. :)

So far the larger battery in our HRV has performed perfectly, but it's only been 13 months and 1 winter.
Only time will tell if the larger battery in our HRV is a suitable solution.

As was mentioned by another member, a trunkload of batteries will eventually go dead if you don't charge them at the proper voltage.
Which is the reason for driving around the HRV with the headlights on all the time.

It's all a bit crazy for a couple of lines of lame software code in the HRV ECM program!

As another member once posted, "We love the little HRV but it's not perfect".
I wanted to see how you fit it- the current battery is basically shoehorned in as it is.
I wanted to see how you fit it- the current battery is basically shoehorned in as it is.

It's tight, as my posts show in the battery upgrade thread, I had to move the ECU over with a fabricated bracket.
The biggest challenge was modding the battery shelf.
So far so good. I haven't touched the battery since I installed it and it hasn't moved a bit.

Next thread, how to swap a real automatic transmission into the HRV! :)
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The Honda service replacement battery (51R 500CCA) in our HRV was only 1.5years old when it died.
The much larger replacement battery in our HRV (124R 700CCA) has been perfect since I installed 13 months ago.
I have never used a trickle charger on our HRV and it's much colder here than New York!
If I ever have to use a trickle charger regularily on any vehicle, I would re-wire that entire vehicle. :)


I've just resigned myself to driving around with the HRV headlights on all the time and the alternator putting out 14V+.
If I turn the headlights off, the charge voltage immediately goes to 12.3V or so as detailed in numerous posts on this thread.
My wife is the primary driver of our HRV but I haven't told her to drive around with the head lights on.
She would never remember anyway!

I recommend for everyone to drive their HRV around with the head lights on all the time to keep the battery fully charged.
It seems counter-intuitive but a voltmeter tells the story.

I wonder if this strategy works for those that converted to LED head lights or a newer HRV with LED head lights?


We'll see how the larger battery in our HRV performs this winter.
Did your dealership install a Honda battery?
There was about 3 years that Honda installed inferior units that could not handle parasitic loads for any length of time without sulfates.
There are several construction factors that assure a start in a car that has to support many computers in a keep-alive state.
I've been reading this thread over the last few days with trepidation as I have a 2016 Mexican built HR-V which appears to be on its original battery.

Due to a combination of MAN-flu and COVID, I haven't used or turned over my vehicle since 23 November. This is the longest period I have not used my vehicle since purchasing it nearly two years ago. Start/Stop had already waved the white flag in October due to the cold weather - it works almost seamlessly during the summer months. Over the last few days the temperature has been so cold the outside tap froze ove and it has snowed for several days.

Yesterday (4/12) I felt well enough to carry out basic checks, and with relief she started up first time without any hesitation or stuttering.

Despite this, I'll factor in a replacement battery during my next service in February. From experience with my previous vehicle, 5 year life expectancy seems to be the going rate for modern car batteries before you start to experience random faults.
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Did your dealership install a Honda battery?
There was about 3 years that Honda installed inferior units that could not handle parasitic loads for any length of time without sulfates.
There are several construction factors that assure a start in a car that has to support many computers in a keep-alive state.

Our LX HRV has only been to a Honda dealer once since we bought it and that was to replace a failing key fob under warranty.


A quick summary of our HRV battery issue:

We bought our 2016 HRV in Oct 2019.
Drove it that winter, in storage summer 2020. No battery issues at all.
Battery died Oct 2020. I recharged it and it tested fine but it was weak.
I was aware of the all the small 51R battery issues years ago from the Acura TSX forums.
Yanked the HRV battery, it was a Honda service replacement battery, 500CCA, date of manufacture May 2019.
It would have been covered by Honda warranty but I did not want another 51R battery.

I installed a 124R 700CCA battery Nov 2020. Drove it all winter 2020.
HRV in storage all summer 2021. We started driving it again this October.

Zero battery issues since the larger battery was installed.
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Our LX HRV has only been to a Honda dealer once since we bought it and that was to replace a failing key fob under warranty.


A quick summary of our HRV battery issue:

We bought our 2016 HRV in Oct 2019.
Drove it that winter, in storage summer 2020. No battery issues at all.
Battery died Oct 2020. I recharged it and it tested fine but it was weak.
I was aware of the all the small 51R battery issues years ago from the Acura TSX forums.
Yanked the HRV battery, it was a Honda service replacement battery, 500CCA, date of manufacture May 2019.
It would have been covered by Honda warranty but I did not want another 51R battery.

I installed a 124R 700CCA battery Nov 2020. Drove it all winter 2020.
HRV in storage all summer 2021. We started driving it again this October.

Zero battery issues since the larger battery was installed.
Did you have to replace the battery tray?
Did you have to replace the battery tray?

Measuring, grinding, drilling, fabbing and welding, like all my projects around the house!

This mod is not for everyone.
It would not make financial sense to pay someone to make these mods to fit in the larger battery.


All the my gory details are in this thread:

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