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Fuel Injectors Fun

1.1K views 6 replies 3 participants last post by  Huff HRV  
#1 ·
Wife's car 2016, bought new and has been a good vehicle but starting to show some age at 150K miles. Have done most reg maintenance to good end. Other than that, an alternator.
Recently replaced original injectors, in an attempt to get rid of a "hiccup" in throttling from a standstill and mussed up one of the injectors by trying to force in the fuel rail assembly. Wow did that throw a lot of dash lights. Cleared all and replaced all the injectors but this time not forcing the rail/injector assembly. Runs smooth with good power but is evidently losing fuel pressure somewhere. Did the "spray test" with some MAF cleaner, around the injectors and fuel rail, while engine running and no air leaks and no fuel leaks detected. I did not even disconnect the fuel rail when changing out the injectors- just swung out the assembly., popped old out and new in and re-seated whole thing. When cold car starts like when the fuel rail was empty- much stumbling until lit, then runs fine.
I have a feeling that when I ran the engine on the wounded injector, before (re)replacing, I may have splashed in enough fuel to ding the upstream o2 sensor, which I intend to replace, regardless, due to the high miles.
Here's the odd part- the mpg indicated is way above normal- 45 around town, 50 hwy! Actual net at the pump maths out to approx 31 mpg, which is normal.
Just drove from Vegas/LA run and it threw PO172 code but after cleared stayed off.
Thots?
Thanks much- Huff
 
#2 ·
Good call on the oil test for fuel in oil.
Anyone know how to disconnect the fuel rail at the "quick disconnect"? Most types have a "pinch" mechanism, to release, but this one seems to be shrouded by a barrel-shaped piece of white plastic and a green pinch type barb/flange exposed in a little window on the barrel that I have pushed down with no joy. Almost looks as if the barrel is to tilt up at a hinge point on passenger side to access the green pinch mechanism other end but I don't want to force it.
 
#5 ·
Based on your mileage computer being so far off, I'd recommend hooking up an OBD II scanner and having a look at the long and short trim fuel trims.

Since you just replaced the injectors, it could be that they are not the proper calibration and are dumping more fuel than the ECM is commanding. This will result in the fuel trims reading high in the negative direction.
 
#6 ·
(re) replaced the injectors. Keys to this job is not mangling the clip-on connectors- the female metal is very delicate. Undo the (2) 10 mm bolts at harness cover to make room and plug in the connectors before setting in the whole rail assembly AND cleanliness, which is maybe why I had issues with sealing t the o-rings. Replace the green fuel line plastic connector. My "shroud" that covers that joint broke but doesn't seem to matter much as it is the same style as the conns for the fuel lines at the fuel pump assembly and those are not shrouded. Methinks that "barrel" cover is a safety feature to just to keep out prying hands. I may just wrap some silicone tape around the joint and be done with it.
Short and long term fuel trim is now reasonable but will know more next time wifey fills her tank. "Bleed-down" is also gone, whereas the system would need to be primed (key on for a few seconds, before starting the engine) lest the starter spin for a few seconds before the engine lit.
Mpg indicator is still way to optimistic, tho- 50 around town!
Still have a bit of hesitation when big throttle input (fwy ramps, to merge, etc...) and will check the cleanliness of the MAF, air filter (altho I usually don't let that sort of stuff get too cruddy), and at 150k mi on the odo I will now change upstream o2 sensor to see what that does, clean the EGR and the throttle body, maybe adjust the valves.
Update, later.
 
#7 ·
Update-
Cleaned EGR, PCV, MAF, throttle body (air filter good but methinks that even a properly-oiled K&N makes for some minimal oily ook downstream), replaced O2 sensor and the car runs like near new at 150K mi. Hesitation is gone, starts right up. Trans is shifting better, too, it feels- still want to go to a low gear a little quickly, tho. Short and Long Term fuel trim seems to be okay. Crazy-high mpg is coming back towards normalcy.
Next to adjust valves.