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#147 ·
HRV4ME or me for the decision?

I think it will be the Crosstrek for me and I may go with white with a black interior. The dealer I have been dealing with has a white one coming in about 3 weeks. I will go look at the HR-V one more time on Monday before my final decision. Want to do another test drive to confirm.
 
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I don't see the Crosstrek as more contemporary than the HR-V, personally, and that's one of the things that appeals to me about it. The HR-V is nice looking, but a bit too much like every other 'contemporary' SUV out there. The Crosstrek (I wish they'd just call it XV like they do in other markets) has a very unique, even eccentric design that I think will age more gracefully than the HR-V.

Went back to Subaru yesterday, first chance to compare after driving the HR-V. Sat in several, walked all over the lot in stinking hot temps (well, hot for us... high 20s ;) ) comparing colours, test drove a manual and CVT. Much as I disliked the manual last time I tried it, that was an Imprezza and I wanted to make sure the XV was the same. Alas, yes... not a pleasant drive at all.

The CVT, on the other hand, was just as natural and impressive the second time around... definitely felt it was superior to the HRV. Comfort was superior, finish was superior, switches and equipment were more to our liking. About the only thing that disappointed was the sound system, and we didn't do more than listen to a couple of FM stations, as it's not a big priority for us.

So after all the waiting and waffling, we've decided to get the Crosstrek Limited. Haven't driven the manual HR-V, but no matter how well it drives the comfort and quality issues are still going to be there. As explained earlier, for us and the trims we'd consider in each car, this is around a $4,000 decision, and we didn't make it lightly... but for a car we plan on keeping for a decade or two, we're convinced the value is there.

Hope nobody here feels abandoned. Still think the HR-V is a great car, still a fan of Honda, it just didn't work for us.

Now we just have to make a colour choice... as with the HR-V, wish they had more colourful colours. It will likely be a grey or white, just possibly Jasmine green, but neither of us are thrilled with that colour. Wanted to like the orange, but really not me.
 
#162 ·
idearat, I have enjoyed reading your contemplations on the HR-V vs the Crosstrek. Of course, I think you made the right decision. ;)

I am a fan of design, and I also think the Crosstrek will age better in the looks department. The elegant simplicity of the interior will suit my eyes for many years, while the HR-V's attempt at contemporary design is just a flub. Honda could have taken design cues from the new Volvo XC90s interior:

http://www.volvocars.com/us/cars/ne...4325-aafb-abb79e761f42/7e6b67761ee345b39ed3b3f6c08346bf/all_new_xc90_interior_1

That interior is the most beautiful expression of what I consider contemporary modern that I've seen. Alas, 50k is beyond what I'm willing to pay. Plus, the exterior of the XC90 is bleh.
 
#164 ·
sure, the Crosstrek might look slightly prettier or whatever, but here is a review by Consumer Reports:

Subaru XV Crosstrek Overview

The Crosstrek is a small quasi-SUV version of the Impreza hatchback, with a raised ride height that gives it enough altitude to slosh through deeply rutted roads. It may appeal to those people who live at the end of a dirt road and don't want anything big and bulky. The cabin is rather noisy, the ride is stiff, and the 148-hp, 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine has to work hard to maintain highway speed, but fuel economy is a gratifying 26-mpg. The costlier Hybrid barely improves on that, at 28-mpg. At least the Hybrid is a little quieter and sounds less strained. Either way, the regular Impreza hatch may be a better choice: It's quieter, quicker, cheaper, and better riding.
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#186 ·
HRV4ME said:
For those that have test driven the Crosstrek, is it underpowered? Nearly every review I have seen I see the engine mentioned as a problem.
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I had one as a loaner for a few days. It's very much like the HRV in the power department. Fine in the city, and fine while cruising on the freeway, but trying to execute a pass at speed takes some planning and a long stretch of open road. If you're going up an incline north of 50mph, forget about trying to pass those big rigs unless you're ok getting cursed at by the folks behind you.
 
#184 ·
I agree that the Crosstrek is not in the least bit underpowered. Car reviewers, IMHO, are all hung up on the ponies.

Many reviews exist over at subaruxvforum.com that blast that assertion out of the water.

Many call the HR-V underpowered also. I didn't think the HR-V was underpowered and it has 10 ponies less than the Crosstrek (148 vs 138).
 
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Testers tend be car guys, people who actually get a kick out driving, so of course, faster car, bigger kick. Does it need to be faster? Maybe not for Joe and Sue Average.
Everybody has an internal meter that tells them when a car is just too slow. For me its when it takes longer than about 9 secs to 60. Your (speaking to eveyone) meter may differ. Don't mean its faulty.
I'm sure the subie is not slow enough to be dangerous . Just irritating for some.
 
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Okhick said:
Testers tend be car guys, people who actually get a kick out driving, so of course, faster car, bigger kick. Does it need to be faster? Maybe not for Joe and Sue Average.
Everybody has an internal meter that that tells them when a car is just too slow. For me its when it takes longer than about 9 secs to 60. Your (speaking to eveyone) meter may differ. Don't mean its faulty.
I'm sure the subie is not slow enough to be dangerous . Just irritating for some.
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Crosstrek= weight 3098/ 148hp/torque 127 power to weight ratio 20.9 lbs per HP

HR-V= weight 2888/138hp/torque 145 power to weight ratio 20.5 lbs per HP

Just curious if you think the HR-V is also irritating given that the power to weight ratio for both is practically the same even though the Crosstrek has 10 more hp. I really didn't find the HR-V to be irritatingly slow. It was very peppy.
 
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I have not talked price with my dealer yet. Searched on cars.com and found 2 dealers offering discounts online, one $1700 less and the other $2,350 less than MSRP. They were both less than 125 miles away, I think the one was about 75 miles (each way). I was searching for khaki and blue at the time. Will have to go back and search for white, and am also considering the silver. My dealer has two white with black interiors coming in, one is already sold. If I don't get my deposit in fast, I would think it would be sold also. They said the limited with eyesight sells right away.

I talked to my brother and a guy he works with has had multiple Subies. He likes the 2.5 engine they have. So my brother said maybe I should consider the Forester. Drove it and it was ok, but I really like the way the Crosstrek drives. The Crosstrek is the same length as my Cherokee.....I was shocked.....thought the Forester was about the same as my Cherokee. The extra cargo area would be nice. Crosstrek would be less cargo space for the dog crates than I have now, but I can make it work.

Went by the Honda dealer I have been dealing with this afternoon.....it was on my way home. They had a blue EX-L that had a sign on it that it was sold. My neighbor never told me about it, so they must have pre-sold it and just got it in. Both tail lights in the rear were not lined up properly, a problem that was pointed out in a thread here. Oh I do love that Ocean Blue Pearl!
 
#207 ·
That's a puzzle to me also. An excerpt from an MSN article, 6/13/2015:

Last year, Subaru made a profit of nine cents on every dollar of sales, some $2.4 billion in net income. That’s nine cents free and clear—after all of the workers had been paid and the fancy crash-avoidance technology had been tested and the checks had gone out to charities. No other automaker hit that threshold—not Toyota (8 percent), not BMW (7.2 percent), and certainly not Ford (2.2 percent).

The article also said the incentives, on average, for a Subaru is $481 compared to 2k on a Mercedes and 3k on a Ford.

I can infer a couple things. One, maybe the MSRP is higher than needed to make that profit. Or, not everyone does obsessive research on best purchasing price. Maybe it's both?

Here is the entire fascinating read:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/comp...s/subaru-sells-out-will-a-fast-growing-carmaker-decide-to-stay-small/ar-BBkPpha
 
#208 ·
The dealer I have been dealing with came back with an e-price the same as MSRP, from their internet person. I have not talked price with them yet. I will go elsewhere if they do not come close to the discounts I have found through cars.com. Will also talk to them about a trade in, but I do have a co-worker interested in my Cherokee for her son. I don't know if I want to join Costco, as I would have to drive to Silver Spring just to get their price.
 
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#210 ·
What kind of discounts are they offering on the XV?

I was at the dealership last month to get my free set of brake pads, and for kicks, I asked for a quote for an XV. Down here in Southern California, the asking was a few hundred over invoice. I'm thinking with negotiations invoice or below invoice would be possible (heck I bought my STi down here below invoice towards the beginning of the model year).
 
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#212 ·
2015 XV Crosstrek 2.0i Premium is about 24100.00 with the cvt without any port add ons. Thats almost barebones. So say you get it for 23000 give or take, you can get a HRV with sunroof, push button start, lane watch ect... For 24k

I fell like the HRV is the best bang for your buck. I see on some subarus dealer website a limited with eye sight, nav moonroof and push button start are touching 30k.
 
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