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HR-V production delays?

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Looks like the Fit is delayed a short while. I bet that will also delay the HR-V launch by a similar period, since both models are using the same factory resources.

http://www.autonews.com/article/20140526/OEM01/305269962/a-slow-ramp-up-for-honda-fit

LOS ANGELES -- The launch of the redesigned 2015 Honda Fit subcompact -- built in Honda's new $800 million factory in Celaya, Mexico -- is in the midst of a nearly two-month delay because of quality-control and transport glitches.

As of an April 9 press release, Honda was planning for an on-sale date in late April. Now the forecast is for the second week of June.

Honda spokesman Chris Martin declined to say what the quality shortcomings were, other than to say, "It's not some major rework. These are things that can be adjusted in production. It's not like we're going back to the drawing board. The car has been on sale in Japan already and is doing great."

Because the Fit for the United States is being built in a new factory by new workers, the ramp-up is slower than expected, Martin said. Even before the delay, full production wasn't expected until fall.

The delay came after Honda engineers found deficiencies during qual-ity checks on the first wave of assembled cars that reached U.S. ports and regional centers. Extra inspections are typical for a new model launch.

As a result, every assembled car was pulled aside for checks and repairs. Running changes were made to the assembly line.

All cars now coming down the line meet the quality standard, Martin said, and all Fits that reach dealers will have been double-checked.

"It was always part of the rollout plan that this could happen," Martin said. "We were not in a panic situation. We had a plan to do this if needed."

He added: "We could have shipped cars to the dealer and said, 'Check this,' but we didn't want to put that burden on the dealer."

Honda declined to give even a general description of which parts didn't measure up "because we don't need our competitors doing tear-downs to our cars," Martin said. But he noted that the Celaya plant relies more on manpower than the Fit "mother" plant in Yorii, Japan, which uses more robotics.

The Celaya plant also is testing the Mexican rail system, which has slowed deliveries from the factory to Mexican seaports.

"There were a few kinks in that process. They've all been resolved at this point," Martin said.

The Celaya plant is slated to build about 200,000 units of the Fit and HR-V subcompact crossover annually for the United States, Canada and Mexico.

Art Wright, a Honda dealer in Lehigh Valley, Pa., since 1972, said he respects that Honda "decided to take an extra step to make sure the quality is up to standard. We weren't expecting to see big numbers until June anyway."
The bolded part above worries me. It's clear that the HR-V for the U.S. market will be assembled with less automation than Japanese Honda products. Much of Honda's rock-solid reliability can be attributed to well-refined automated production processes, so I'm worried my HR-V will not be well assembled!

Robotic production is > hand-built production
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ehh i'd say hand crafted has its place as well

a humans touch sometimes is still the best way to ensure something fits properly.
the problem isnt the robots putting the pieces together or in this case people. The problem is the tolerances on components. The tighter the tolerances, the higher the quality. The tighter the tolerance, the higher the cost ;)

I will say I'm doubting there will be a delay come HR-V. They may share a factory but each has its own line so I'm not concerned about FITS backing up the rollout...
Robotic production is the way to go, especially with super cheap vehicles like this. Hand-built is better reserved for vehicles like the NSX
Humans have their place in manufacturing but robots can do thing faster and more consistently than people can. Plus the HRV is a volume model so Honda is going to want to build as many as they can as fast as possible. That means using robots instead of using people.
How I see it as far as mass production goes with mainstream vehicles, robots could likely do most of it, when it comes to inspecting for imperfections, i think thats one thing that needs a human eye and touch, but im sure for even that they can develop tech for it.
Indeed robots are far faster, but the point I was trying to make was that quality control issues are usually not due to assembly procedure but the components themselves!
That is true, the components do come from other companies and it's not easy to control the build quality of all of them. At least in the assembly plant they can do their part.
the fit has been un delayed as of June 12, so I do believe we're back on track...

The redesigned 2015 Honda Fit finally went on sale this week after a few delays with the car’s new production facility in Mexico. Honda originally announced that the Fit would go on sale April 14, but getting up to speed at the Fit’s new plant in Celaya, Mexico took longer than anticipated, which affected deliveries of the new hatchback to dealers.
http://www.automobilemag.com/features/news/1406-2015-honda-fit-is-finally-on-sale-now/
i'm noticing more and more car makers are setting up in mexico, that's great for people who live their, more jobs, economic growth, etc
with that i would worry about what build quality will be like, if it will go downhill or not.
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