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My HRV 2017 has only 6020 miles. I am getting only 14-20 MPG city/highway. I really don't know what is going on with my car. this is really bad. I took the car back to the dealer and they told me that everything was good, but that is not true. I bought the car 8 months ago, Honda pre-owned certificated any suggestion?
 

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I have a 2017 AWD with CVT and drive 99% city driving (NYC/5 boros)- average about 19.1 MPG myself.
On longer road trips I can get temporary 35+ easy - so I would assume its probably driving conditions that effect what you are seeing.... except how does a 4 year old car have such little mileage ???
 

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What was the mileage when you bought it?

I would check how many previous owners it had - if a lot, or the previous owner only owned it a short period, the low fuel economy may have been an issue.

Check the service history; some owners base it on mileage rather than XXXX miles or months, whatever is reached first. Check that it is has been serviced when it should have been serviced, the correct servicing regime has been followed, and all components that should have been serviced or replaced have been. It may be beneficial to change some components early. If the vehicle had been sat for a while, the fuel may have gone off.

If possible, contact the previous owner and see what their experience with the fuel economy was. Also ask what sort of journeys they were doing, a long journey once in a while, or countless short journeys of only a few miles. If the former, not so bad, if the latter, that may explain the poor fuel economy issue.

Ask the dealership you bought it from to test drive a similar vehicle and compare, part of it may be down to your driving style.

Not sure of the situation in the US, but in the UK there are apps and companies that do background checks on potential purchases; provides you with its annual mileage, how many previous owners it had, if the car had been written off, recorded as been stolen, any plate changes and depending on the age of the vehicle (once it had reached 3 years old), how it had performed during its annual inspection; did it only pass after a lot of work had been done, were there any advisories, and had they been carried out, or left for the new owner to deal with, et al.

If such things exist in the US, even though you have already purchased your vehicle, it may be worth shelling out a few sheckles to see what is recorded against your vehicle. It may prove beneficial in the long run.
 

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When the dealership it looked good, did they give you a list of things they checked for? Outside of a mechanic, the easy questions are:
tire pressure correct
how much “junk” do you maintain in your car
do you have a heavy foot
 

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I have a 2017 AWD with CVT and drive 99% city driving (NYC/5 boros)- average about 19.1 MPG myself.
On longer road trips I can get temporary 35+ easy - so I would assume its probably driving conditions that effect what you are seeing.... except how does a 4 year old car have such little mileage ???
I also drive in NYC. Most of the time in Brooklyn and Manhattan. Yesterday, I went out of the state and I only got 20 MPG driving in the highway btw 45-60 mph. This a pre-owned certificated. When I saw the car I was happy to find a car only with 4000 miles and I said to myself this is my car, almost new.
 

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When the dealership it looked good, did they give you a list of things they checked for? Outside of a mechanic, the easy questions are:
tire pressure correct
how much “junk” do you maintain in your car
do you have a heavy foot
according to the dealer they checked everything and everything was good. this a pre-owned certificated car. My car is empty. just a few recyclable bags. not more that 2 pounds.
 

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What was the mileage when you bought it?

I would check how many previous owners it had - if a lot, or the previous owner only owned it a short period, the low fuel economy may have been an issue.

Check the service history; some owners base it on mileage rather than XXXX miles or months, whatever is reached first. Check that it is has been serviced when it should have been serviced, the correct servicing regime has been followed, and all components that should have been serviced or replaced have been. It may be beneficial to change some components early. If the vehicle had been sat for a while, the fuel may have gone off.

If possible, contact the previous owner and see what their experience with the fuel economy was. Also ask what sort of journeys they were doing, a long journey once in a while, or countless short journeys of only a few miles. If the former, not so bad, if the latter, that may explain the poor fuel economy issue.

Ask the dealership you bought it from to test drive a similar vehicle and compare, part of it may be down to your driving style.

Not sure of the situation in the US, but in the UK there are apps and companies that do background checks on potential purchases; provides you with its annual mileage, how many previous owners it had, if the car had been written off, recorded as been stolen, any plate changes and depending on the age of the vehicle (once it had reached 3 years old), how it had performed during its annual inspection; did it only pass after a lot of work had been done, were there any advisories, and had they been carried out, or left for the new owner to deal with, et al.

If such things exist in the US, even though you have already purchased your vehicle, it may be worth shelling out a few sheckles to see what is recorded against your vehicle. It may prove beneficial in the long run.
In the US you can get the CarFax with all the details abt the car. the record looks in order. the previous owner (only 1) had an average of 22MPG. I dont know if he/she used to drive in the city or in the highway.
 

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I also drive in NYC. Most of the time in Brooklyn and Manhattan. Yesterday, I went out of the state and I only got 20 MPG driving in the highway btw 45-60 mph. This a pre-owned certificated. When I saw the car I was happy to find a car only with 4000 miles and I said to myself this is my car, almost new.
that 20 MPG was for that trip etc- it is hard to go by that for such short trips. I can start my car and drive 10 blocks and stop at the ATM on my way to work and then get abck in the car and the MPG will show 11 MPG for " previous trip" - so a short trip without a fully warmed up engine will kill all mileage.

The basic stuff to check- air filter and spark plugs should be clean and new- if you had the oil change it should be the proper weight.
Are the tires OEM sizes etc- changes in tires will change the spedo and give false MPG readings too.

Is it possible the cat conv is clogged ? maybe the AWD is locked ( relay was jumped out ) and its running AWD 24/7 ?
What about the CVT fluids ? hopefully its it not overfilled or under filled.
Its also possible one of the brake pads could be dragging - but that would be noticed, i assume already .
My gut says you should go to another Honda dealer to check it out ( or independent mech if you can) - not the one that sold you the pre-owned car. ( if you are in NYC there are a few Honda dealers in the area)
 

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You could always run a bottle of fuel cleaner through the system to clean the pipes out and see if that makes any difference. I have always used regular fuel, but am aware of some people who swear by filling ever 2/3/4..... fill up with premium.
 

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My HRV never was great but it was also never under 20. For the most part, it was low 20s and if highway miles, mid to high 20s. That isn’t normal.

But the question is how much have you really driven it, a couple of tanks or just a couple hundred of miles since not much driving going on with the pandemic.

you can do all the normal maintenance things. Change oil, change the filter, rotate tires and inflate them all to 34psi. And then give it a couple of tanks.

also, winter gas is bad for mpg and we probably only started getting regular gas in march.

If you are driving in NYC, probably a high traffic and a lot of stop and go. Which I am well aware of and suffer from also. I don’t see a problem with low 20s. My civics don’t get low 30s. If I am traveling to and from NY and I get it bad with traffic. I have definitely gotten low20s before. But if I am doing highway miles, my civics have gone as high as 36/37mpg.
 

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If your going by the Dash MPG display, it does an average of all milage as we all know, but since you do a lot of city driving, the low mpg from that will not be affected by the freeway drive much.

I suggest switching to Trip A, or Trip B and clearing it to Zero miles just before hitting the freeway. This will reset the MPG meter for that selected Trip Meter. If your car really is "normal" as the dealer says, you should see the display show very good MPG within a few miles.
 

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If your going by the Dash MPG display, it does an average of all milage as we all know, but since you do a lot of city driving, the low mpg from that will not be affected by the freeway drive much.

I suggest switching to Trip A, or Trip B and clearing it to Zero miles just before hitting the freeway. This will reset the MPG meter for that selected Trip Meter. If your car really is "normal" as the dealer says, you should see the display show very good MPG within a few miles.
This is exactly what I do. I reset the TRIP A every time I fill up the tank. I also do the calculation manually (miles/gallons) and the result is the same. I fill up the tank when I have a quarter of the tank left.
 

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My HRV never was great but it was also never under 20. For the most part, it was low 20s and if highway miles, mid to high 20s. That isn’t normal.

But the question is how much have you really driven it, a couple of tanks or just a couple hundred of miles since not much driving going on with the pandemic.

you can do all the normal maintenance things. Change oil, change the filter, rotate tires and inflate them all to 34psi. And then give it a couple of tanks.

also, winter gas is bad for mpg and we probably only started getting regular gas in march.

If you are driving in NYC, probably a high traffic and a lot of stop and go. Which I am well aware of and suffer from also. I don’t see a problem with low 20s. My civics don’t get low 30s. If I am traveling to and from NY and I get it bad with traffic. I have definitely gotten low20s before. But if I am doing highway miles, my civics have gone as high as 36/37mpg.
I have driven about 800 miles in the last 2 months and that is why I see the problem now. I've scheduled a full maintenance and a full check up to see what's going on with the car. I also noticed that when driving on the highway, the acceleration is not good. I try to accelerate and the car takes 3-5 seconds to respond. I think the gas filter is dirty or maybe the injector system. I'll see what happens next week after maintenance.
 

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The delay in acceleration may not be down to a faulty or clogged fuel filter. Depending on your previous vehicle you may have to adjust your driving style to accommodate the HR-V's drivetrain.

I went from a AWD 2.0l 140bhp turbo diesel to a FWD 1.5l na 130bhp petrol. My diesel had pick up from around 1750rpm, whereas the HR-V does not come alive until around 6600rpm (the US 1.8 may be slightly different). Regardless of the difference in bhp and the rev ranges, both vehicles had similar 0-62 times of around 10.2 seconds.

Depressing the accelerator of my HR-V for the first few weeks felt like wearing ballet shoes compared to the heavy clod hoppers required in my diesel car. I still miss the low end 'shove you back into your seat' grunt of the diesel, but I REALLY love ragging the nuts off the HR-V when a wee burst of speed is required; joining a motorway from a slip road for instance. In that case I will drop down to third and floor it and only change into 6th once up to traffic flow speed (60mph or so).

As for your fuel economy issue. In the early 90's I drove a Rover 216 (1.6l) and was only getting 20mpg Imp/16.6mpg US around town and 30mpg Imp/24.9mpg US on the motorway. Took it to several dealerships who all gave it a clean bill of health. Took it to an 'engine specialist' who also gave it the all clear. The only thing he could think of was to go down the route of an engine or top end rebuild (I can't remember exactly what he said) but he stated even that would not guarantee improving the fuel economy.

I owned that vehicle for around 18 months and 36k miles, and never got to the bottom as to why the fuel economy was so bad. I had a similar issue with binding brakes on my last vehicle, which over 24 months I never fully resolved. I just think particular cars (not specific brands or models) are inherently unreliable, or will continually suffer from issues.

But I'm cheery like that!
 

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My HRV 2017 has only 6020 miles. I am getting only 14-20 MPG city/highway. I really don't know what is going on with my car. this is really bad. I took the car back to the dealer and they told me that everything was good, but that is not true. I bought the car 8 months ago, Honda pre-owned certificated any suggestion?
I've owned my 2017 since new. I get about 24-27mpg city. I get 33-38mpg hwy. I only have 21K miles on it. Good luck - yeah I think something is wrong.
 

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I have a 2018 EX AWD. I use it for work and drive all over the country. I am at 76 K miles, and I get about 22to 27 city miles( i drive a lot of steep hills) And on Roadtrips 33 to 40. I even have a rooftop rack. However, as I driver I don't accelarate hard, tail gate, speed up to red lights, and I don't speed on the freeways. My brakes still havent had to be done yet.

One thing it could be, is if you have the economy switch--can't use that in the city, it will make your mileage worse, much worse from experience.
Also, there is some breaking in time on a new engine, I for got what the miles are.
 

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I have a 2018 EX AWD. I use it for work and drive all over the country. I am at 76 K miles, and I get about 22to 27 city miles( i drive a lot of steep hills) And on Roadtrips 33 to 40. I even have a rooftop rack. However, as I driver I don't accelarate hard, tail gate, speed up to red lights, and I don't speed on the freeways. My brakes still havent had to be done yet.

One thing it could be, is if you have the economy switch--can't use that in the city, it will make your mileage worse, much worse from experience.
Also, there is some breaking in time on a new engine, I for got what the miles are.
Thanks for the information. What type of gas do you use?
 

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My HRV 2017 has only 6020 miles. I am getting only 14-20 MPG city/highway. I really don't know what is going on with my car. this is really bad. I took the car back to the dealer and they told me that everything was good, but that is not true. I bought the car 8 months ago, Honda pre-owned certificated any suggestion?
Are you turning off the AWD after starting the car? You would know if it’s off by the light on the dash coming on. I drove my 2016 halfway across the country before noticing that I had it off in Kansas & wondered why I was getting bad gas mileage. It’s an easy thing to forget but just as easy as instill in my car-starting routine.
 

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We've got a 2018 EX AWD, and in the city I'm mostly seeing 20-22mpg. If I take a long drive on the freeway it's closer to 33-35. We've only got a bit over 12k miles on it though, so it hasn't seen a whole lot of drivin yet.
 

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Something isn't right if you're only getting 11-12 mpg. A few things come to mind which would cause this, or it could be a combination of issues.

Heavy foot on the gas pedal.
Lots of heavy object kept in the car.
Lots of heavy people in the car.
Old fuel (fuel begins to break down rather quickly after about 2-3 weeks unless you use fuel stabilizer). Given the incredible low mileage on that vehicle, it could be that the gas is old and has gone bad. Old fuel can also cause the fuel to gum up in the fuel pump and other areas of the fuel system.
Dirty/clogged engine air filter.

Given the low mileage, it's doubtful the spark plugs would be bad, however, it might not be a bad idea to pull the spark plugs to inspect them (a lot can be told from how spark plugs look), let alone to double check the spark plug gaps to be sure they're correct.

Running the air conditioner or windshield defrost would have a small negative effect on fuel economy, but not much.

Driving in very hilly areas will also negatively affect fuel economy.

I live in a very hilly area of Eastern Pennsylvania, drive with a very light foot, rarely use the air conditioner, with a mix of city/hwy mileage at about 50/50. In the cold winter months I average 32-34mpg, and in the spring/summer/fall months I average 34-37mpg.

I can't think of any good reason why your mileage would be so low and would try a different dealership to see if they can find the problem.
 
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