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Hi there,

don't know about legal issue for posting that... article is now removed from tractionlife.com but it's still in the google cache....! Got a little trouble to found it but there is it: http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...lang_en|lang_ko|lang_zh-CN|lang_zh-TW|lang_ja

Enjoy!

My favorite part is : "HR-V is quiet on the road, and smooth (it’s fitted with sound deadening material and underbody covers to improve aerodynamics). Amplitude reactive, dual piston dampers help with handling and stability. The HR-V feels agile and compact-car like when driving, with responsive steering and a chassis that feels stiff and substantial. Quite enjoyable, actually."
 

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Thanks for posting this up for us. Nice way to get some info ahead of everyone else.

The 2016 Honda HR-V is simple to drive, stylish and and useful. Honda Canada has included popular options for our market and is pricing it competitively. The company expecting to sell about 10,000 in its first model year.
Sounds like it will do well, but it is a very competitive segment so the HRV will really have to hold its own to compete.
 

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Thanks for finding and posting!


I didn't realize that the screen was somewhat angled to the driver, nice to see in that photo.


Interesting read for those interested in the manual:
"I actually preferred the CVT transmission to the manual, and I’ll tell you why. It was a bit of deja vu for me, experiencing the throttle blips between gears when shifting up and down. I remember Hondas of old used to do this, and while Honda pointed the finger at the driver, I reckon it’s something to do with the technology (I own an S2000 and it doesn’t do this). So, for me the 6MT felt overly busy, and the CVT was smooth and unobtrusive."
 

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Is this an error?

"The 2016 Honda HR-V arrives in LX, EX and EX-L Navi trim levels, and is available in FWD or AWD versions, except for the EX-L Navi, which is only available with AWD."
 

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Just in case the site get's taken down, here's the text of the review. While starting the review by saying he can separate being wined and dined by Honda with still giving a critical review, I don't really see anything negative in his review....enjoy

2016 Honda HR-V First Drive Review
We get behind the wheel and review the all-new Honda HR-V subcompact crossover before it hits the market.

Review and Photos by Paul Williams
Miami, Florida - It’s hard to beat Miami Beach as a venue to launch a new vehicle. The sun and the surf, the tanned bodies, the shiny cars. It’s a feast for the senses, surely chosen to put one in a great frame of mind for a drive.
Don’t worry, healthily cynical auto journalists aren’t dazzled by this kind of thing; we know you have to separate the place from the product, and in this case, the all-new 2016 Honda HR-V didn’t require any help. It turned out to be an impressive little runabout that can stand on its own four wheels without help from a fancy backdrop.
ALSO SEE: 2015 Acura ILX Dynamic Review

The Honda HR-V is a “subcompact crossover,” according to Honda. It’s built on a version of Honda’s Global Compact Series Platform that’s forms the basis for the Honda Fit subcompact car. Now, anyone who knows about the fit knows its interior is unusually flexible and unexpectedly spacious. To a large degree, the HR-V shares those attributes.

What most contributes to the innovative interior is the location of the gas tank, underneath and behind the front seats. This “midship” mounted gas tank frees up a huge amount to space behind the rear seat and supplies a low, flat floor behind the front seats. In other words, the 1,665 litres of HR-V cargo capacity is a major selling point. Bigger even than a Nissan Rogue or Ford Escape, according to Honda, both larger vehicles than the HR-V.
The 2016 Honda HR-V arrives in LX, EX and EX-L Navi trim levels, and is available in FWD or AWD versions, except for the EX-L Navi, which is only available with AWD. A number of desirable features are standard, including heated front seats and front wiper de-icer (both Canadian market favourites), seven-inch Display Audio, rear-view camera, alloy wheels, heated mirrors, LED rear lights, and air conditioning. Pricing is expected to slot the HR-V above the Fit but below the larger CR-V.
The more expensive trim levels include items like LaneWatch (an image is displayed in the centre console via a camera in the passenger-side mirror), moonroof, auto on/off headlights, leather seat trim, navigation, lane departure warning, forward collision warning and satellite radio. You can’t get the increasingly popular blind spot warning or cross traffic alert, but the expanded-view exterior mirrors and multi-view rear camera are helpful substitutes.

Don’t think that the HR-V is simply a jacked-up Fit, though. Compared to the Fit, HR-V is a significant 230 millimetres longer, rides on an 80mm longer wheelbase and is 81mm taller. It’s width increases by 70mm, and it has a 54mm wider front and 67mm wider rear track than the Fit. According to Honda, HR-V is an “entirely new generation of subcompact crossover,” for the company, “blending “the styling of a coupe, [and] the toughness, space and utility of an SUV…”
HR-V Styling

From a styling perspective, the top half of the HR-V is certainly coupe-like. It’s notable for its aerodynamic profile and hidden rear door handles that suggest a two-door vehicle at first glance. The bottom half of the HR-V looks very “CUV,” though. The standard 17-inch aluminum wheels are stylish but appear capable, and the big wheel openings and sill treatment suggest off-roadability.
Powering the HR-V is a 1.8-litre, Civic-based single overhead camshaft four-cylinder engine (it’s not the engine found in the Fit) that makes 141 horsepower at 6,500 rpm and 127 pound-feet torque at 4,300 rpm. You can choose between a CVT “automatic” and six-speed manual (6MT) transmission, although if you opt for AWD (the same Real-Time AWD with Intelligent Control found in the Honda CR-V), only the CVT is offered.
Fuel economy should be a strong point regardless of the drivetrain. Projected consumption from regular grade fuel is 8.3/6.7 L/100km city/highway for the FWD CVT; 9.3/7.0 L/100km for the FWD 6MT and 8.8/7.2 L/100km for the AWD CVT.
HR-V Cabin

Inside HR-V is all about modern minimalism. Honda refers to it as a “Smart Touch” interior. Most everything is managed from the centrally mounted touch screen (it’s angled toward the driver) and the controls on the steering wheel. Interior panels are mostly soft-touch with embossed stitch lines; the piano-black trim looks sleek and the instruments precise.

The HR-V features rear “Magic Seats,” like the Fit. The rear seat squabs fold up to reveal an unusually large cargo space into which you could easily slide a large, flat-screen TV or a bicycle with front-wheel removed. The split-folding rear seats create a very useful cargo space when flat, and with the front-passenger seat folded you could fit a large ladder, tall bookshelf or similar long items. The rear door at 650 mm is wide and the floor level low for easy loading and unloading.
Because the HR-V rides fairly high, getting in and out is easy; you pretty much just point your rear-end and move sideways. The high hip point also gives good outward visibility, and the standard multi-angle rear-view camera helps when backing up.
On the Road

HR-V is quiet on the road, and smooth (it’s fitted with sound deadening material and underbody covers to improve aerodynamics). Amplitude reactive, dual piston dampers help with handling and stability. The HR-V feels agile and compact-car like when driving, with responsive steering and a chassis that feels stiff and substantial. Quite enjoyable, actually.
I actually preferred the CVT transmission to the manual, and I’ll tell you why. It was a bit of deja vu for me, experiencing the throttle blips between gears when shifting up and down. I remember Hondas of old used to do this, and while Honda pointed the finger at the driver, I reckon it’s something to do with the technology (I own an S2000 and it doesn’t do this). So, for me the 6MT felt overly busy, and the CVT was smooth and unobtrusive.
At 141 hp/127 lb.ft. torque, power is sufficient for zipping around town, although it’s obviously not particularly muscular. Some drivers may wish for more underfoot, just because they like a little extra, but Honda thinks buyers in this segment are more interested in good fuel economy and this drivetrain apparently delivers that.

And who’s buying this type of vehicle? Singles and pre-family couples at one end of the age spectrum, and Boomers/Empty Nesters at the other. “People who want the drivability and styling of a coupe but the functionality of an SUV,” according to Honda. In other words, not necessarily those with kids and frequent rear-seat passengers.
Then again, I’m sure Honda will be happy to sell HR-V to anyone, because the company is entering a segment already populated by an abundance of similar vehicles. Current or available shortly are the Mazda CX-3, the Nissan Juke, the new Jeep Renegade, Chevrolet Trax and Mitsubishi RVR. Those ready to purchase might also consider the Fiat 500X, and perhaps even the Subaru XV Crosstrek, while the Kia Soul (even though it’s currently only available with FWD) is also a possible consideration, as, I would argue, is the new five-door Mini (this segment likes brand).
The 2016 Honda HR-V is simple to drive, stylish and and useful. Honda Canada has included popular options for our market and is pricing it competitively. The company expecting to sell about 10,000 in its first model year.
2016 Honda HR-V
Expected: Second quarter, 2015
Source: Hermosillo, Mexico
Pricing: expected under $30,000 for the top model, starting at maybe $20,000.
2016 Honda HR-V Photos:


 

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Every time I think I've made up my mind, I haven't. (HRV VS CX-3), Both have strong advantages/ disadvantages. In the end one will just have to deside which set of advantages is most important to them. They are really not targeted to the same consumer. Must drive. In the past I've been more satisfied with Mazda dealer attitudes vs Honda. That may just be local though.I'm thinking both are the most attractive vehicles in their respective product lines. Was considering Fit over HRV, but I continue to hear the HRV is much more refined.
 

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>> The company expecting to sell about 10,000 in its first model year

Huh? The Soul sells 150,000 a year. I can't believe Honda is aiming for 10,000. I wonder if he missed a zero.

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Supposedly issues with the Mexican plant ...also, I think it shares the same production line as the Fit ...maybe they are scheduled to just produce more Fits in 2015 and thus dragging their feet on purpose on the HRV production before ramping up production on the HRV in 2016 - splitting production time more evenly between the two models ????? I know there are a lot of unsold Fits sitting on the lot at my local dealership :( ......I wonder how Fit sales are doing ?


I think you are right .....from another thread on here its closer to 100k the first year
"The automaker plans to sell between 70,000 and 80,000 units of the new HR-V compact crossover, which launches in spring, for the first 12 months "when it's up and running," said Jeff Conrad, general manager of the Honda division." 10,000 a MONTH sounds more like it to me .


Follow up : Fit is apparently selling well "
Honda Fit continues to post major increases, gaining 58 percent in March on sales of 6,640 units while jumping 73.2 percent for the first quarter of 2015 "


What is amazing is how many CRVs they sell per month ........"Sales of the best-selling CR-V crested 27,000 units in March. "


Ridgeline looks doomed at only 77 units sold in March :( .
 

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Keep in mind that the article is about the Canadian version, so maybe they plan on selling only 10,000 in Canada. The other numbers might be for the USA.
 

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If he's right about no EX-L FWD, I'm a little bummed by that. I was hoping Canada would get the EX-L manual, but if no FWD, no manual either.

I've been leaning towards the EX anyway, since the additional content isn't on my 'must have' list, but if the pricing was right I would have considered it.

Also wish he'd mentioned dual-zone climate... there are hints that Canada is getting that, but no firm word yet.

Thanks to Sircrix for finding this, and Derm for the snapshot before it went away!
 

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I'm extremely distrustful of anyone who stresses how trustworthy they are.

It’s hard to beat Miami Beach as a venue to launch a new vehicle. The sun and the surf, the tanned bodies, the shiny cars. It’s a feast for the senses, surely chosen to put one in a great frame of mind for a drive.
Don’t worry, healthily cynical auto journalists aren’t dazzled by this kind of thing; we know you have to separate the place from the product, and in this case, the all-new 2016 Honda HR-V didn’t require any help. It turned out to be an impressive little runabout that can stand on its own four wheels without help from a fancy backdrop.
 

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It'll be annoying if they don't make dual zone available, there just no valid reason not to unless they're looking for somewhere to cut costs, but still
 

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I thought this reviewer was spot-on with his market analysis. After a month or more on this forum, I think we're a mix of boomer geezers like me and much younger millenials, with a few others thrown in. And he nailed the competition almost exactly - the same cars I was cross-shopping. Bless him, he even dared to mention the Kia Soul as competition, even though it does't (yet) have AWD.

I was most interested in the singe paragraph on driving attributes. We've all pretty much discussed every thing that can be discussed about the HRV. And many of us have sat in it at a dealer or auto show. The only unknown right now is "how does it drive". We get some hints from overseas reviews, but they have different engines.

I'm really antsy for that first test drive in both the manual and CVT, because the consistent trend in the reviews where people have actually driven the thing is "Fine in the city, but not something you'd want to take for a 7-hour interstate trip". I'm really anxious to find out for myself - my salesman better be ready for a 15 minute blast down the interstate at 75 mph. It's the first thing I'm doing with the car when I drive out of the dealer's parking lot.
 
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