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Granted this article is a couple of months old, makes me feel so much better from those expressing concerns on the lack of power.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/suvs/1411_2015_honda_vezel_first_drive/

"For my test drive, Honda loaned me a front-drive Vezel S, whose standard paddle shifters and 17-inch alloys shod with 215/55 Dunlop SP Sport Maxx 050 summer tires make it the sportiest non-hybrid variant. Initial observation: Despite weighing a hundred or so pounds more than the Fit, the similarly powered Vezel didn't seem any slower.

Zipping around the busy streets of Tokyo and merging into expressway traffic presented no problems at all for this 129-hp crossover. In fact, it never felt wanting for more power, a tribute to the nicely sorted CVT. Further, it's much quieter than a Fit, even with the 1.5L pegged at redline.

Honda notes that the Vezel utilizes "high-performance soundproofing," and it shows. The gutsier, less-buzzy 1.8L HR-V should prove even quicker and quieter. In terms of fuel economy, expect the HR-V to return numbers slightly thirstier than the Civic's 30/39 mpg city/highway."
 

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Isn't the Vezel a hybrid? I think that would make it launch quickly, since the electric motor is chipping in. I wouldn't take that as any kind of indication of USA model performance.
 

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Not sure hopefully someone can clarify, but I would think a hybrid would have a slower start.

Isn't the Vezel a hybrid? I think that would make it launch quickly, since the electric motor is chipping in. I wouldn't take that as any kind of indication of USA model performance.
 

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There is a regular gas Vezel and a Vezel hybrid, the article doesnt mention an electric or hybrid engine so I assume is the Gas version, it does point out that it is a different engine from the HR-V. I do hope Honda decides to bring the Hybrid version to the US before I need to replace my old car
 

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I beleive that the gas only engine in the Vezel is the same as the Fit, the 1.5L. The HR-V will have a 1.8L with more horsepower but we pay for that with a lower mileage.
 

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Yes, I believe that is the case, which sounds very encouraging for the HRV.

I beleive that the gas only engine in the Vezel is the same as the Fit, the 1.5L. The HR-V will have a 1.8L with more horsepower but we pay for that with a lower mileage.
 

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From the first post:

Isn't the Vezel a hybrid? I think that would make it launch quickly, since the electric motor is chipping in. I wouldn't take that as any kind of indication of USA model performance.
For my test drive, Honda loaned me a front-drive Vezel S, whose standard paddle shifters and 17-inch alloys shod with 215/55 Dunlop SP Sport Maxx 050 summer tires make it the sportiest non-hybrid variant
 

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It depends on the design of the hybrid. In many designs the electric motor and gasoline motor combine to give more power when you smash the pedal down. Also can depend on which mode you select. In full econ mode on a plug-in hybrid, you can be limited to just electric mode. And electric motors give incredible torque from zero RPM, which translates into perceived snappy performance.

Really guys, the Vezel performance is totally and absolutely unrelated to what we're going to see here in the USA. Hey, we'll all be reporting actual performance back here in week or so, right?
 

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True, but the HRV should offer even better performance.

BTW, in a week or so?? :eek::eek::eek:

I am expecting to see a flood of information hit come Thursday: http://www.hrvforum.com/forum/289-h...30-embargo-date-april-30-1-week-counting.html

Some on here have lost interest, moved on to other models, or waiting on the bench for the 2017 or 2018 or 2019...hopefully there is a couple of other serious buyers still here. :laugh:

It depends on the design of the hybrid. In many designs the electric motor and gasoline motor combine to give more power when you smash the pedal down. Also can depend on which mode you select. In full econ mode on a plug-in hybrid, you can be limited to just electric mode. And electric motors give incredible torque from zero RPM, which translates into perceived snappy performance.

Really guys, the Vezel performance is totally and absolutely unrelated to what we're going to see here in the USA. Hey, we'll all be reporting actual performance back here in week or so, right?
 

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I meant, in a week or two we'll all have driven for ourselves and will be sharing what we thought. I agree with everyone that reviews are a nice resource, but driving it yourself is what matters most.

I mean, I'm 60. There are members here under 30. What Grampa considers good performance will probably make Junior snooze at the wheel?

I'm really interested in getting another look at the interior in various trims. I've seen pictures of black interiors that look plush and rich. But when I was in an HRV at NYC, it was plain and cheap. I'm wondering - does the interior get nicer as you move from LX to EX and EX-L? Looking forward to that test drive.
 

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I meant, in a week or two we'll all have driven for ourselves and will be sharing what we thought. I agree with everyone that reviews are a nice resource, but driving it yourself is what matters most.

I mean, I'm 60. There are members here under 30. What Grampa considers good performance will probably make Junior snooze at the wheel?

I'm really interested in getting another look at the interior in various trims. I've seen pictures of black interiors that look plush and rich. But when I was in an HRV at NYC, it was plain and cheap. I'm wondering - does the interior get nicer as you move from LX to EX and EX-L? Looking forward to that test drive.
When you were at the NYC show did the car have leather seats? If so, that was the top of the line interior on the EX-L, the only difference is that it can come in Grey or Black.

Other markets get different options such as two-tone seats, but we won't see anything like there here in NA.
 

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Granted this article is a couple of months old, makes me feel so much better from those expressing concerns on the lack of power.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/suvs/1411_2015_honda_vezel_first_drive/

"For my test drive, Honda loaned me a front-drive Vezel S, whose standard paddle shifters and 17-inch alloys shod with 215/55 Dunlop SP Sport Maxx 050 summer tires make it the sportiest non-hybrid variant. Initial observation: Despite weighing a hundred or so pounds more than the Fit, the similarly powered Vezel didn't seem any slower.

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Zipping around the busy streets of Tokyo and merging into expressway traffic presented no problems at all for this 129-hp crossover. In fact, it never felt wanting for more power, a tribute to the nicely sorted CVT. Further, it's much quieter than a Fit, even with the 1.5L pegged at redline.

Honda notes that the Vezel utilizes "high-performance soundproofing," and it shows. The gutsier, less-buzzy 1.8L HR-V should prove even quicker and quieter. In terms of fuel economy, expect the HR-V to return numbers slightly thirstier than the Civic's 30/39 mpg city/highway."
Its a bit perplexing. He states the weight difference between Vesel and a similarly equipped Fit is only 100lbs. That doesn't sound right .

Once again going to Australian Honda Site for specs of similarly equipped cvt models the weights are listed as 2921 for the 1.8 Vesel and 2409 for the Jazz , a whopping 512lb weight diff. If the weight diff between the 1.5 liter and 1.8 liter Vesels is more than 400lbs (probably not, but diff could be significant) then the 1.5 would be faster as well as far more frugal.
 

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Yes, as in most Hondas the EX has nicer material than the entry level LX.


I meant, in a week or two we'll all have driven for ourselves and will be sharing what we thought. I agree with everyone that reviews are a nice resource, but driving it yourself is what matters most.

I mean, I'm 60. There are members here under 30. What Grampa considers good performance will probably make Junior snooze at the wheel?

I'm really interested in getting another look at the interior in various trims. I've seen pictures of black interiors that look plush and rich. But when I was in an HRV at NYC, it was plain and cheap. I'm wondering - does the interior get nicer as you move from LX to EX and EX-L? Looking forward to that test drive.
 
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