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2022 HRV Vezel japan

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Official Honda of Japan photos.
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No, it still has a ICE, in this case a 1.5l. I'll link the webpage to the Jazz(Fit) as the drivetrain (and many other parts) look to be similar to the new HR-V. WLTP fuel figures are a lot more realistic than the previous system used, one road test achieved 60mpg (Imperial) with their time with the new Jazz. The Jazz is only sold with this engine configuration.

Honda Jazz Hybrid & Jazz Crosstar | Hybrid Car | Honda UK

And this is the link to the new HR-V on the Honda UK website:


I actually quite like it, it just annoys me the fuel flap is on the passenger side which is a proper pain in the hoop when pulling up at a petrol pump!
 
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The only newer Honda that interests me these days in the Civic Type R.
If you haven't driven one, I highly recommend it. Ignore it's goofy styling and just focus on the acceleration, handling and driving dynamics.

If the new HRV had the 300HP type R engine with the excellent 6 speed manual and possibly AWD and it's excellent suspension and huge brakes, less the 20 inch wheels and less the goofy styling...

And then it would be too nice, too expensive and totally impractical to drive in the winter...
 
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The only newer Honda that interests me these days in the Civic Type R.
If you haven't driven one, I highly recommend it. Ignore it's goofy styling and just focus on the acceleration, handling and driving dynamics.

If the new HRV had the 300HP type R engine with the excellent 6 speed manual and possibly AWD and it's excellent suspension and huge brakes, less the 20 inch wheels and less the goofy styling...

And then it would be too nice, too expensive and totally impractical to drive in the winter...
My second car it the Civic Hatch with the 1.5 turbo, drives like a dream. (though not good for deep snow)
Made in UK, the build quality is a step up from the Mexican HR-V

The Type R is pretty impressive, but I think it would turn into too many speeding tickets!
Amazing what they've done with a small, lighter, nimbler car
https://www.autoguide.com/auto-news...s/2017/04/top-10-cars-the-2017-honda-civic-type-r-beats-on-the-nurburgring.html
 
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Styling wise the Type R Civic looks like fire damaged Lego. Practicality wise, it's just too low to the ground.

I tried one (just the SE) before settling on the HR-V, and I just could not get in or out without having to put my hand on the ground to help getting in or out. I'll readily admit to being a bit of a Lard Arse (obviously not to LHD standards) but the Civic would appear to be aimed purely at the below average height double jointed acrobat demograph.
 
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^^ That reminds me of the excellent 2002-05 Civic Si (called Civic SiR in Canada.)

It was an excellent hot hatch that sold really poorly in North America. It was built in England.
It had the excellent K20 high revving engine and a manual trans, 4 wheel disk brakes, excellent suspension.
It had a quirky feature of the manual trans lever was in the lower center dash rather than the floor.
It was fine to shift gears and drive but that shifter in the dash looked really goofy.
The 2004-05 years were even 5 lug wheels rather than the lame 4 lug.
It had/has a quiet following and would have been a great match to our 2006 Acura TSX, (Honda Euro Accord).

I tried to find and buy one many years ago.. Too trashed or too pricey, couldn't find one between those 2 extremes.

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^^ That reminds me of the excellent 2002-05 Civic Si (called Civic SiR in Canada.)

It was an excellent hot hatch that sold really poorly in North America. It was built in England.
It had the excellent K20 high revving engine and a manual trans, 4 wheel disk brakes, excellent suspension.

It had/has a quiet following and would have been a great match to our 2006 Acura TSX, (Honda Euro Accord).

I tried to find and buy one many years ago.. Too trashed or too pricey, couldn't find one between those 2 extremes.
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The model I had was the 1.6 VTEC SE Executive; leather heated seats, electric sunroof, and climate control. I miss the dash mounted gearlever, less distance for your hand to travel from the wheel. There was also a pop out cup holder below the right hand air vent. Luxury on a long journey. And back in the day when Honda used to have an actual engine temperature display in the dash.

In preparation for my trips to and from Gib, I swapped out the Honda OEM head unit for an Alpine single DIN satnav one, and yes, that was the actual size of the display. It ran off a DVD that was already 2 years out of date and would cost over £150 to update, and that was in 2005.

I still bitterly regret trading it in, unfortunately it was scrapped in February 2019.
 
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For those that are not so keen on the grill in the official Honda release video, this may be of interest,

Also, for all the electric tailgate, wireless mobile charging, cup holders in the rear arm rest, I am a little sad that it would appear Honda have removed the adjustable front cupholders. :(

p.s you're going to have to excuse the shaky camera work!

 
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Grille - lifted from some kind of Lincoln? 'Wow, thanks Dad! Now we won't be embarassed when dropped off at school.' And the lights running across the rear... will look really good when a few pixels fail. The paino-black plastic everywhere is gross, IMO, and where is the spare tire? Not run-flats! And the BMW colors in the grille... give me a break! And the wheels! The designers must have a deal for kick-backs from after-market wheel suppliers.
 
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One thing to consider is the Japanese market Vezels are a much different car than what we get in other markets, including the US. Remember those beautiful LEDs that were on the pre-announce HRV? Never made it to the US or Canada. Think of the Japanese Vezel as more of what we might see in an Acura here, if it were ever to be released. We'll get something stripped down with slightly different trim, and less features.
 
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One thing to consider is the Japanese market Vezels are a much different car than what we get in other markets, including the US. We'll get something stripped down with slightly different trim, and less features.
I think the biggest sticking point for the NA market getting all these fancy features and 'niceties' is the selling price is so low that it would not be cost effective to fit them.

The base price of the NA LX is $15,280. The base price of the UK equivalent is £20,735 or $28,791.

The base price of the NA EX-L is $26,020. The UK equivalent is £26,620 or £36,963.

Oh,and the UK 1.5Turbo Sport is £28,420 or $39,963.

My 4 year old mid spec SE cost £12k, or $16,600. We do get the niceties, but we bloody pay for them! ;)
 
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I don't believe Honda attempted to launch Acura in the UK. Nissan tried to launch Infiniti, but it crashed and burned after about 10 years.

Ford have a novel approach with their 'it contains everything you can imagine' Vignale, which is supposed to be a standalone version of all their vehicles (I don't know why the video is stating this is a 2018 Vignale, as the vehicles plate quite clearly states it is a 2016 model; 16/66 = 2016, 17/67 = 2017 et al);


Perhaps Honda should do something similar and sell an 'all singing, all dancing' version of the HR-V in NA and call it the Vezel!

They could even run an ad campaing along the lines of, "Have you Be Vezelled your HR-V?".

Then again, maybe not!
 
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Thanks for that. There's a similar YouTube video here:
It's tedious to watch with translation to English on, but you'll get a feel for what Honda designers tried to do with the design.

1. I'm not crazy about the body colored grill but the rest of the new HR-V looks great - assuming it is little changed when it hits the USA market.

2. The integrated tonneau type cover over the rear cargo area is unique. I wonder if it can be removed for storing taller items.

3. The center of the rear seat is strangely raised, which compromises the center passenger's comfort. Hmmm?

4. The outboard A/C vents with three way air flow options are also unique.

5. No word if the N. American market will get a bigger engine (1.5 turbo maybe.)
 
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Thanks for that. There's a similar YouTube video here:
It's tedious to watch with translation to English on, but you'll get a feel for what Honda designers tried to do with the design.

1. I'm not crazy about the body colored grill but the rest of the new HR-V looks great - assuming it is little changed when it hits the USA market.

2. The integrated tonneau type cover over the rear cargo area is unique. I wonder if it can be removed for storing taller items.

3. The center of the rear seat is strangely raised, which compromises the center passenger's comfort. Hmmm?

4. The outboard A/C vents with three way air flow options are also unique.

5. No word if the N. American market will get a bigger engine (1.5 turbo maybe.)
1. I did not like it at first, preferring the glitzy chrome alternative, but am now changing back to the body coloured version.

2. This type of cover is very popular in small cars over here, and they are all removable. Hoping that will be the same with the MkIII, however, the plastic arm mechanism that drops down may be an issue.

3. It may be a combination of the material (leatherette?) and possibly the 60 section has not been secured properly that is giving this impression.

4. I think Honda are hedging their bets with this system. There was a survey released a few years back that stated the US market preferred the AC to BLOW out onto the occupants, whereas in Japan and Chna they preferred the AC to waft gently out. This system appears to offer both.

5. The recently released eHEV Jazz (Fit) uses a combination of a 1.5 na engine backed up with a small electric motor to assist. The CRV hybrid is similar but uses a 2.0 na engine. The non eHEV CRV uses the 1.5 Turbo engine. In the UK Honda did not offer the HR-V with AWD as they did not want it to steal sales from the CRV, so I would think it highly unlikely they would offer the turbo in the HR-V when they do not in the recently revised (2019) CRV. The Civic Typer R uses a 2.0 Turbo producing 320bhp

Honda declared in 2019 that its entire mainstream car line up in Europe would be hybrid only by 2022.
 
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had a hunch the next gen hrv was going to use the 1.5 turbo thats in the crv's for a long time .

interesting design on the leaked photos of the crv that also have a longer looking hood akin to the rav's