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#1 · (Edited)
They advertise this unit as having full stock functionality with both cameras and features. I can happily say that it is exactly what they say it is. I have a lot to say so read carefully if you are considering purchasing this unit. Hopefully I can help.

Brief rundown:
All the cameras work and the unit even retains the MPG and trip mpg history features. The unit also adds some features like graphical door ajar indicators. Plug and play with some configuration through a password protected factory settings menu. (password is 126). Steering wheel buttons work and are programmable. This thing is LEGIT!

Cameras:
With a little configuration they both work just fine. The Lane Assist camera has the distance lines programmed in to it so they display automatically. The reversing camera settings include options to show trajectory as well as a distance ruler too.
To properly route the signal for the Lane Assist camera in a USDM HRV EX I had to do the following:
"GO to Settings >Car >Factory Setting (password 126) >Other >Customer Version >Version 2"
In "Settings >Car >Extra Settings >Reversing Volume >On" or set the reverse volume to the desired attenuation. Otherwise as configured by the factory the audio will cut out when the reverse or Lane Assist cameras are active.
(The "Factory Setting" menu has a lot of other configurable options that are vehicle specific. Password: 126)

Installation:
The Dasaita is plug and play with a little common sense. Huge bundle of wires that will need to be zip tied and kept tidy, perhaps wrapped in foam to prevent rattling. Two harnesses did not plug in to anything, one with two green wires and a large gray plug and the other was a small blue DA plug (confirmed not needed by support rep.)
The dash trim pulls off easily and only 3 bolts hold the stock unit in to the dash. My first go around has me thinking that the new unit is intended to simply pressure fit in to the cavity where the original stereo came out. The original stereo's metal cage didn't fit the new Dasaita unit but I would prefer that it did. The Dasaita gets quite hot to the touch after a short period and a metal heatsink to the chassis would be preferred. I may end up installing a small fan to cool the unit.
GPS antenna: Even though my HRV is only an EX it still had a GPS antenna installed. It was directly above the stereo unit on a metal bracket with a short pigtail cable. I removed the original antenna from the bracket and installed the new Dasaita antenna in it's place. This worked out great and I had no trouble getting a fast and accurate GPS lock with google maps.
WiFi: get a bigger WiFi antenna. It made a big difference in speed and reception after I swapped it for one I had lying around. You either need an SMA Male Connector antenna or do what I did and cut a piece of short solid core wire to act as the center pin. MOST wifi antennas are SMA FEMALE so you won't likely have a Male one lying around.
USB: Included, but not shown in the product description, is one adapter labeled "Toyota usb adapter" which allows you to connect one of the units usb ports to the stock HRV under dash ports. Do yourself a favor and order a second one from Amazon to connect the second port. It won't fit perfectly but if you double check the orientation and just cram the plugs together it will work. Tested and verified.
HDMI: there is no HDMI, so the mostly useless port under your center console will be nonfunctional. I would be interested to see If one could obtain an additional USB port for this location to better utilize the Dasaita's third usb connection.
Speed and Responsiveness:
The specs seem to be true to the user experience, it is very responsive, fastest Android device I have ever owned. But then again I generally own 2+ year old phones anyway.

Sound quality:
Let me preface this by disclosing that I am an audio engineer and have spent the better part of a decade performing modifications to audio equipment to improve the audio path and quality on a commercial level. I have a very discerning ear, but I don't buy crazy expensive HI-FI equipment due to my practical nature and the law of diminishing returns. Great sound quality can be achieved without breaking the bank. Additionally, I have already upgraded the speakers in my HRV so I am getting the full benefits of a new headunit.
With the exception of Bluetooth (see below), the audio quality is where the unit has proven itself to me. The stock stereo has some terrible equalization profile applied to the audio at all times or the analog audio path consists of junk components. Having only has bass and treble controls you cannot correct the crappy audio quality in the stock hrv headunit. The Dasaita unit has a 9 point graphical EQ that can be set completely flat and is fairly transparent when cutting and boosting frequencies. My advice would be to mostly cut, not boost. For example if you want more bass, don't turn the bass up, turn the trebel down. This helps with headroom and Dynamics. I think that the unit produces great sounding audio to the speakers through the internal amplifier. However, like most internal amplifiers, the headroom leaves much to be desired. When you start turning up the volume to where the music gets "loud" the dynamic range is compressed and eventually starts to distort. This is true of most internal amplifiers of car head units. The great thing is that the Dasaita has proper front and rear RCA outputs for attaching a 4 channel amp and sub. I will likely install an amp down the road but the audio quality of the Dasaita will get me by until then for sure! The noise floor is a little bit higher than I would like, but only really a slight hiss that is noticeable when sitting still, when the car is in motion it is mostly masked by road noise. I guess I will find out down the road if this is the audio path or amplifier noise floor.
Bluetooth audio: I have not yet tested this unit with another Bluetooth audio device, but with my stock HTC One M8 the bluetooth audio streaming quality was COMPLETE GARBAGE! Unlistenable amounts of noise, crackles and distortion. Update: tested with an iPhone, same result. I will try different software.. So far this is my only gripe.

Software:
This is straight up ANDROID IN YOUR DASH! No restrictions, any app any time.
The stock music player is basically a proof of concept player. Download a better one ASAP.
The unit came preloaded with iGo Navigation which loaded up with French as the default language. I haven't put any time in to using this application because when I need to navigate I use Google Maps then Sygic Maps then Sygic Car Navigation (in that order of preference).
The stock launcher is junk but they do include a full licensed version of "Car Launcher AG" and I quite like it! Once configured it is a great dashboard interface.

Screen:
The 8" screen almost fills the entire opening on the dash, this is GLORIOUS! No more black bar around the screen! The screen is recessed in to the dash trim by a gloss black bezel. I get the impression that the angle was designed for right hand drive vehicles but it looks nice and clean. The color and contrast of the screen is great, so much better than stock.

Phone integration:
The provided apps and settings allow for making phone calls over bluetooth, but I haven't done much more than make a test call to check my voicemail.
I haven't spent a ton of time using the new unit so I may report back with updates as I become more familiar.
I would recommend this to anybody with an HRV and enough confidence to install it. VERY MUCH WORTH IT.
 
#300 ·
I love my Dasaita but I must admit that it was my goal to have CarPlay in the car and that was my motivation to get the Dasaita. That being said, I don’t know why Apple doesn’t make CarPlay available on the phone itself because the “Plus” and “Max” screen is big enough for it.
 
#299 · (Edited)
Update: I returned my Dasaita. No-questions-asked refund, so credit to them. I packed it back up nicely for them.

I wasn't in love with it in general so I decided to take advantage of the return policy while I could. Some of it just involves Carplay, which has its own shortcomings to no fault of Dasaita.

It's been a couple weeks and I've been generally happy with mounting my phone on the dash and ignoring the stereo screen. I may take a recommendation of going with a name-brand at some point but right now I'll take it easy (and listen to music LOUD).

@Goonking @Dr. Toboggan
 
#298 ·
Mine isn’t the Vivid 11, it’s a Max 10. I’ve had no problems with the battery or the volume eventually becoming louder. I’m sure that I’ve already posted it but there is a setting in the CAN-BUS to allow music while in reverse, it worked on mine. No stuttering ever on mine either. What version is your phone? Do a hard restart on it. The CarPlay volume (lack there of) is unfortunately built into the hardware and nothing is going to correct it.
 
#297 · (Edited)
@Dr. Toboggan @pedrompls I have had the same issue with the Carplay volume being lower than it normally was with the stock headunit on my 22 HRV LX just like @pedrompls. I have a Dasaita G12 and my Carplay volume is automatically set to max on my iPhone with no control to lower it, only through the headunit. @Dr. Toboggan has a Vivid 11 as the G12 came out ~6 months ago, ive messed with the CAN-BUS settings in relation to this issue and made no difference.

On the G12 I have continuously noticed that the stereo becomes significantly louder (nearly 2x) after driving for a while under steady conditions. I suspect that this is due to the HRV's ridiculously small 51R battery (smaller than a Chevy Sonic lol) that is incapable of even powering the headunit to it's max amperage. There are many forum posts backing this, and monitoring the batteries voltage it only seems to give adequate amperage after driving for ~15 mins with the alternator running.

I'll upgrade the battery here soon and update my findings.

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As an update to my overall experience with the headunit it's been great but here are the issues i've encountered thus far. I've obviously had the Carplay volume issue as described above - which is no big deal as even the max volume is enough, but an issue regardless. My biggest complaints thus far is that the music stops when enabling the reverse camera (even changing certain settings per forum posts and the official guide), and that Carplay occasionally will have audio stutters when playing music. The stutter issue is an easy fix, just disabling then reenabling WiFI on my iPhone then letting it reconnect; this occurs once every 2-3 weeks so no big deal but I have no idea what causes this. I still highly recommend this headunit, if anyone has any input and/or fixes to these issues please make a post, thanks y'all :).
 
#293 ·
What is this “D cable”? It’s been so long since I installed mine I don’t remember, yet still I don’t use those buttons for phone calls (I use Siri/CarPlay).

I’m not sure what you’re referring to as the “steering wheel control app”. Fortunately for me, mine worked out of the box, so I never messed with it.

Re: Dasaita wasn’t helpful… I believe you’re talking about the Siri volume and yes they’re weren’t helpful to me either on this issue but I think it’s because they didn’t understand what I was trying to tell them; however, that’s a hardware issue because the head unit just isn’t made to have a separate volume control for Siri. This is my only complaint about the product aside from the occasional times when CarPlay doesn’t connect wirelessly.

No problems with the music cutting out for me but I’m running Android 10 so I don’t want to compare with your Android system because it’s newer. That also could possibly be your phone.

There is a slight delay (less than a second) when connected wirelessly but that doesn’t happen if you connect it wired. So, it’s a trade-off, live with the millisecond delay to be wireless or connect the wire and don’t have the delay.

Lastly, if you have apps that run slow or freeze then that’s a RAM issue. The more RAM the faster the software. However, the more RAM makes the head unit price go up. So, that’s another trade-off as well, I advise everyone to buy as much RAM as they can afford.
 
#294 ·
Image below shows the D/D1/D2 cables. They're part of a bigger bundle of cables on a connection

Settings > Car Settings > Steering Wheel Controls opens an app called "Wheelkey Study".

I'm pretty happy with the success of switching the cables. A mute button is probably more handy than a voice button!

Yeah, I don't want to come down on Dasaita. They were helpful! Fixed my biggest issue! Based on all my research, I should be glad so much worked out of the box and I didn't need their help much at all!

But yeah they either didn't understand my issues with a few things (low volume CarPlay, sideview camera muting) or, as with the the no wired CarPlay support, they know the limitations of the unit and don't plan to mess with it. I read somewhere something to the effect of "don't update your device if it's working pretty okay". An update to fix things some things could be a dream but I understand them not doing that.

I haven't even figured out how to download apps. It's not troublingly slow, so there's no issue AFAIK. Just being hyper critical...it would be nice if it was a tinge faster. Bluetooth is slow, naturally, and though the Dasaita rep said "
The G12 not support the wired CarPlay, only for wireless. But it could support wired/wireless CarPlay" I'm not sure what wired/wireless means.




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#291 ·
That’s just the way that the CarPlay volume is because it’s not independent from the music volume. I figured they would have fixed that by now. I’ve driven other cars whereas the (factory) head unit has a volume for the music and a separate volume for the CarPlay. In fact, our ‘24 Civic EX is like that.

My HR-V is an LX and has far less wires than the EX and others, almost all except maybe two of the connectors were not used on mine.

I don’t have a side camera, so I can’t give feedback there but in my opinion I felt that my rear camera improved the image; however, as I posted the factory head unit was used less than two months and I really don’t remember.

My phone controls on the steering wheel don’t work either except the speaking button actually will mute the volume. I have never used those buttons anyway in my cars and I rarely use the ones that are too close to the bezel. I actually use Siri for almost everything except the volume control, which in that case I use the buttons on the steering wheel.
 
#292 ·
Per Dasaitas advice I switched the D cable from D2 (which the sticker says to connect to) to D1 and now the voice control button is also muting, the answer button picks up calls when I'm receiving one, the hang up button hangs up like it should and also functions as a "back" button.

The Steering Wheel Controls app still doesn't register the clicks so I can't adjust them.

Dasaita wasn't very helpful with the other things. Told me I can control volume on my Phone, to go to reverse volume settings which I had already done, and that there's still not wired support.

Overall....doing alright. Better than stock by a million miles, for sure. A tad slower here and there than I'd like and the bluetooth music cuts out for a split second here and there. But out of the box with a small wire adjustment, I'd recommend it.
 
#290 ·
Hey amigos, this is my first post! Found this forum the day I bought my 2018 Honda HR-V EX 2WD MT, which was last Friday May 10th, when I was exploring my options for the lack of Apple CarPlay. Big ups to a bunch of y'all but probably especially @Dr. Toboggan for all the trials, errors, information, etc.

My experience:

I ordered a Dasaita G12 on Amazon from the Dasaita store (can't post link!) on Sat May 11th. Arrived on Monday May 13th with Prime and today I was able to give it a try. Bullet points:

  • Removing the dash/trim is easy. I used bike tire levers and then found wedges in the box!
  • Removing the OEM stereo is also easy. I took a picture of all the connections while still plugged in just in case.
  • Plug-and-play may be true but don't be fooled by unplugging the stock unit and thinking "yep, I'll unplug these 7 wires and then plug them into the Dasaita". A coworker who has done car stereos the hard way did remark that it does look "plug and play" which gave me some confidence to plug it in...and play.
  • The instructions are junk. I figured it out but it couldn't been a shorter experience with some clearly laid out instructions like which harness to use of the two provided, and which weird little connectors to plug into weird little connectors on the same harness.
  • I plugged in everything I could match and decided to start it up. Good results all things considered!
  • Side-view camera worked, but using the right blinker or turning on the camera manually muted the music which is weird. I couldn't find a specific setting so I turned off a setting that mutes music when reversing.
  • Rear-view camera works. Camera quality is poor for both cameras but the better screen is an advantage.
  • I installed the wifi antenna, gps antenna along the front passenger door frame per a video I saw. Both are working independently of CarPlay.
  • I installed the microphone near the push to start.
  • Not a fan of how close the buttons on the left are to the bezel. Where I sit they are a little cropped out. NBD but not ideal.
  • Would really like to fasten it to the dash but I'm letting gravity and the dash cover itself do the work as others have described.
  • I'm surprised by a lot of the functionality. It knows when my doors are open, etc. I had a drink while installing it so I wasn't able to really give it a spin and experience everything.
-It looks great! Minus the left buttons being so close to the bezel.

PROBLEMS SO FAR (that I haven't fulled troubleshooted)
  • As someone has described before, the steering wheel phone controls don't work. I went into steering wheel buttons settings screen but it wasn't recognizing the buttons being pushed. I'm suspicious one of the two wires I unplugged from the original unit that are not attached to anything is the problem, but I'm sure it doesn't fit anything included with my G12.
  • Sound is low using CarPlay. Switching to FM radio is suddenly very LOUD.
  • As mentioned before, side-mirror camera mutes music and only way I could turn it off was turning off the setting that mutes music during reversing.
  • Cameras are maybe slow to turn on?

Anyhoo, I'll try to update y'all on my experience when I get through the manual, talk to Dasaita, etc. BUT! Any advice is appreciated. I think I scrubbed this post pretty well but maybe I missed some solves.

Temporarily final install
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The connection on the left (fairly square) I did not connect to anything.

The connection on the right (black) I did not connect to anything. Looks HDMI-ish

OEM unit back before I disconnected it. The top left connect and the all black connection two over are the only things that I did not find something to plug into.
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#289 · (Edited)
Bought and installed the newest version of this headunit (the 9" G12 model) today on my 22 HRV LX. As far as installation the instructions were somewhat vague as to exactly what cables to use for what model but wasn't too bad. Steering wheel controls, OEM backup camera, and Apple Carplay work perfectly. The only major installation issue I found was that the screw and washer holding the OEM headunit into place couldn't be used to install the Dasaita headunit, as the washer on the screw was impossible to get off - even using pliers. After some searching others just held it in place with the dash cover, and so far it seems to be an effective solution.

A big reason I bought this unit was how horrible the audio is on the HRV, after extensive research on the forums @Dr. Toboggan, @Rhonda, and @John35g stated that upgrading the headunit would be a far better upgrade than the speakers from their experience due to how poor the OEM headunit is. I can confirm this, the audio quality is so much better on my LX than it was before - I can finally hear mids and the bass actually had distinction and quality to it now. I can record clips of how massive the difference was, shoutout to these folks. Don't waste money on speakers before upgrading the headunit.

Will update with any issues and gripes I have with the unit as time goes.
 
#287 ·
I updated my phone to the newest iOS (operating system) and the Zlink app to connect to CarPlay wirelessly became very slow to load and connect to my phone. I tried a few things on the head unit and also doing a hard restart on my phone and nothing helped it. The Zlink app usually loads the moment that the head unit is turned on and then it takes about 2 seconds or less for the CarPlay to load but it was taking about 30 seconds for Zlink to load and another 20 seconds for CarPlay to connect on the phone. So, after trying everything with the head unit and phone, I restarted my (fiber) Wi-Fi modem and it fixed everything that was going slow. I’m not sure how that interacts with the car but I’m just glad that it’s fixed and wanted to pass the information along for everyone.
 
#286 ·
All of my apps, as of now. Zlink is the app that loads CarPlay (or Android Auto) wirelessly. I haven’t installed the TPMS sensors yet, waiting for when I need new tires. The TV app opens the tv tuner to catch local over the air broadcast stations. Video plays movies from a USB drive. DVR, front and rear, not purchased yet. A2DP and iSO_PAL, I have no idea what those do.
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#285 ·
I’m not sure what happened but I guess when I went online last week to watch a movie on an app that the head unit updated and my USB with 350 movies would not read anymore. It said that the drive needed to be formatted, so I did on the head unit (it’s always been formatted on my computer). Then I loaded my movies back on it and it works now. It had been formatted to FAT32 all this time but now it’s exFAT, again I’m not sure why but glad I got it fixed.
 
#283 ·
Yes, it’s for 2016-2022 although 2016-2018 and 2019-2022 are different as well as the LX, EX, etc.. The head unit is actually the same but the wire harness is different, so it’s important to accurately tell them the year and trim and market (country) when you buy to make sure that you get the correct harness.
 
#279 ·
Life itself is not without risks, there are no guarantees. All I can tell you is my experience with it. It was very simple plug and play but my reverse camera didn’t work. I sent them a message and they replied the next day that they had sent the wrong wiring harness for my car. I got the correct one a week later and my reverse camera worked. About the only thing you may have to do is change the CAN-BUS settings (I’ve already posted in this thread how to do that). I’ve had mine for two and a half years with an iPhone and CarPlay, everything still works perfectly.
 
#278 ·
I'm looking at this for my wife's 2016 HR-V. I've been tempted to trade it more than once for not having any sort of phone/nav integration.

Any down sides? Anything that will not work if I swap this? My wife is not very tolerant of much trial and error debugging.
 
#273 ·
I found out how to set the car’s clock when you have an aftermarket head unit. I’ve tried this before, even with a tech at the dealership and he couldn’t do it himself. So, I found myself a need for a new battery and changed it. Now if you press that knob on the display five times it will bring you to the GUI to change the time. I know that was never possible until the new battery, so something changed on my car (2020 HR-V LX AWD).
 
#271 ·
To update - the aftermarket DVR kit (its a usb one that dasaita sold me) works well, but only with the supplied software on the DVR, the Dasaita provided DVR software doesnt pick up the video stream.

The reversing camera needs to be connected to the reverse cable in the harness, and ground to function.

And the DVR rear camera, actually can function as the reversing camera (if you plug in the RCA and provide it power!) - but I've opted to install both as the view for each will be different...
 
#270 ·
Just to follow up, the dab connector I got works,

Fakra Female to SMA male is what you need, but taking off the plastic parts of the fakra side. Bit fiddly but it does fit. I could only get a fakra female to sma female so needed to get a male to male adaptor to make it car antena cable to fakra to sma female to sma male to sma male to dab dongle. Waiting for the GPS cable to see if that fits and will update.



Currently having issues getting an aftermarket Dvr and reversing camera working, bit difficult to get dasaita support due to time difference but I continue to get it working!
 
#268 ·
Thanks for the link Dr Toboggan, I've looked through most of the links, however they all seem to be for the AM/FM connector. I've ordered a generic cable and will see if I can cut the plastic casing to fit the Honda connector. If it works then a bit of tape to hold it together and 1 less antenna to install! Need to run the cables for aftermarket dash cam and reversing camera next!