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#1 · (Edited)
They advertise this unit as having full stock functionality with both cameras and features. I can happily say that it is exactly what they say it is. I have a lot to say so read carefully if you are considering purchasing this unit. Hopefully I can help.

Brief rundown:
All the cameras work and the unit even retains the MPG and trip mpg history features. The unit also adds some features like graphical door ajar indicators. Plug and play with some configuration through a password protected factory settings menu. (password is 126). Steering wheel buttons work and are programmable. This thing is LEGIT!

Cameras:
With a little configuration they both work just fine. The Lane Assist camera has the distance lines programmed in to it so they display automatically. The reversing camera settings include options to show trajectory as well as a distance ruler too.
To properly route the signal for the Lane Assist camera in a USDM HRV EX I had to do the following:
"GO to Settings >Car >Factory Setting (password 126) >Other >Customer Version >Version 2"
In "Settings >Car >Extra Settings >Reversing Volume >On" or set the reverse volume to the desired attenuation. Otherwise as configured by the factory the audio will cut out when the reverse or Lane Assist cameras are active.
(The "Factory Setting" menu has a lot of other configurable options that are vehicle specific. Password: 126)

Installation:
The Dasaita is plug and play with a little common sense. Huge bundle of wires that will need to be zip tied and kept tidy, perhaps wrapped in foam to prevent rattling. Two harnesses did not plug in to anything, one with two green wires and a large gray plug and the other was a small blue DA plug (confirmed not needed by support rep.)
The dash trim pulls off easily and only 3 bolts hold the stock unit in to the dash. My first go around has me thinking that the new unit is intended to simply pressure fit in to the cavity where the original stereo came out. The original stereo's metal cage didn't fit the new Dasaita unit but I would prefer that it did. The Dasaita gets quite hot to the touch after a short period and a metal heatsink to the chassis would be preferred. I may end up installing a small fan to cool the unit.
GPS antenna: Even though my HRV is only an EX it still had a GPS antenna installed. It was directly above the stereo unit on a metal bracket with a short pigtail cable. I removed the original antenna from the bracket and installed the new Dasaita antenna in it's place. This worked out great and I had no trouble getting a fast and accurate GPS lock with google maps.
WiFi: get a bigger WiFi antenna. It made a big difference in speed and reception after I swapped it for one I had lying around. You either need an SMA Male Connector antenna or do what I did and cut a piece of short solid core wire to act as the center pin. MOST wifi antennas are SMA FEMALE so you won't likely have a Male one lying around.
USB: Included, but not shown in the product description, is one adapter labeled "Toyota usb adapter" which allows you to connect one of the units usb ports to the stock HRV under dash ports. Do yourself a favor and order a second one from Amazon to connect the second port. It won't fit perfectly but if you double check the orientation and just cram the plugs together it will work. Tested and verified.
HDMI: there is no HDMI, so the mostly useless port under your center console will be nonfunctional. I would be interested to see If one could obtain an additional USB port for this location to better utilize the Dasaita's third usb connection.
Speed and Responsiveness:
The specs seem to be true to the user experience, it is very responsive, fastest Android device I have ever owned. But then again I generally own 2+ year old phones anyway.

Sound quality:
Let me preface this by disclosing that I am an audio engineer and have spent the better part of a decade performing modifications to audio equipment to improve the audio path and quality on a commercial level. I have a very discerning ear, but I don't buy crazy expensive HI-FI equipment due to my practical nature and the law of diminishing returns. Great sound quality can be achieved without breaking the bank. Additionally, I have already upgraded the speakers in my HRV so I am getting the full benefits of a new headunit.
With the exception of Bluetooth (see below), the audio quality is where the unit has proven itself to me. The stock stereo has some terrible equalization profile applied to the audio at all times or the analog audio path consists of junk components. Having only has bass and treble controls you cannot correct the crappy audio quality in the stock hrv headunit. The Dasaita unit has a 9 point graphical EQ that can be set completely flat and is fairly transparent when cutting and boosting frequencies. My advice would be to mostly cut, not boost. For example if you want more bass, don't turn the bass up, turn the trebel down. This helps with headroom and Dynamics. I think that the unit produces great sounding audio to the speakers through the internal amplifier. However, like most internal amplifiers, the headroom leaves much to be desired. When you start turning up the volume to where the music gets "loud" the dynamic range is compressed and eventually starts to distort. This is true of most internal amplifiers of car head units. The great thing is that the Dasaita has proper front and rear RCA outputs for attaching a 4 channel amp and sub. I will likely install an amp down the road but the audio quality of the Dasaita will get me by until then for sure! The noise floor is a little bit higher than I would like, but only really a slight hiss that is noticeable when sitting still, when the car is in motion it is mostly masked by road noise. I guess I will find out down the road if this is the audio path or amplifier noise floor.
Bluetooth audio: I have not yet tested this unit with another Bluetooth audio device, but with my stock HTC One M8 the bluetooth audio streaming quality was COMPLETE GARBAGE! Unlistenable amounts of noise, crackles and distortion. Update: tested with an iPhone, same result. I will try different software.. So far this is my only gripe.

Software:
This is straight up ANDROID IN YOUR DASH! No restrictions, any app any time.
The stock music player is basically a proof of concept player. Download a better one ASAP.
The unit came preloaded with iGo Navigation which loaded up with French as the default language. I haven't put any time in to using this application because when I need to navigate I use Google Maps then Sygic Maps then Sygic Car Navigation (in that order of preference).
The stock launcher is junk but they do include a full licensed version of "Car Launcher AG" and I quite like it! Once configured it is a great dashboard interface.

Screen:
The 8" screen almost fills the entire opening on the dash, this is GLORIOUS! No more black bar around the screen! The screen is recessed in to the dash trim by a gloss black bezel. I get the impression that the angle was designed for right hand drive vehicles but it looks nice and clean. The color and contrast of the screen is great, so much better than stock.

Phone integration:
The provided apps and settings allow for making phone calls over bluetooth, but I haven't done much more than make a test call to check my voicemail.
I haven't spent a ton of time using the new unit so I may report back with updates as I become more familiar.
I would recommend this to anybody with an HRV and enough confidence to install it. VERY MUCH WORTH IT.
 
#117 ·
Yes, I posted in the user group and no one replied that they have had this problem. Also, Dasaita said that this is the first case of this problem. As I said above, I'm not sure how all of these modern electronics work but apparently the combination of the Honda electronics and the Dasaita head unit and these LED ambient lights have some kind of a conflict.
 
#119 ·
I plugged it into a “cigarette lighter” phone charger that is plugged into the 12V socket. They shouldn’t be on the same circuit. I have no idea how those LED ambient lights change colors (microchip?) or how the CAN-BUS for the Dasaita works or the Honda control modules, etc. work but the fact that the radio light messed up within 12 hours of installing the LED ambient lights makes me believe that has to have been the problem.
 
#121 ·
Maybe it's just a really unfortunate coincidence, that the circuits controlling blue are unstable (lack of B in RGB makes Y, I had the same issue on my last RGB keyboard)
No warnings on the package or anything, I know nothing about this "RGB" but learned my lesson.
 
#122 ·
RGB is red/green/blue. The LEDs inside (the Dasaita) mix those three colors in varying degrees to make pretty much any color the designers are willing to offer.

So, when your power button looked yellow, it's because the blue isn't working. When you have only red and green, you get yellow. You need all three to make white light (without using a plain white LED). Could by a faulty blue LED. Could be a damaged circuit. Could be interference... who knows.
 
#123 ·
I thought about your input and checked and yes, the blue is not working (as shown in the picture). Then I thought that if that RGB USB ambient light turned it off then perhaps it would turn it back on again. So, I reinstalled the RGB USB ambient light and set it to blue… bam! the blue light on the Dasaita came back on and then I removed the RGB USB and changed the Dasaita lights from blue to white and they’re all on now and all white. It did have a slight flicker for a moment but I reved the engine and it came on bright. I am now absolutely sure that this problem came from those RGB USB ambient lights. I never should have installed them. Live and learn, I’m the type of person that would replace the head unit because one light didn’t work.
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#125 ·
Yes, me too. It's my fault. It all seemed so simple. These cars are really complicated now. I've been doing all of the 12V accessory installations on all of my family's cars (radios, alarms, etc.) for over 20 years and this is the first mistake/problem that I have ever had thus far. Dasaita said that they would fix it for free but also pointed out to me that the shipping cost at my expense to China would exceed the purpose.
 
#127 ·
You must have edited your post here but I got the original copy in my email. You said that I should try yellow to trigger the blue. I've tried all of the lights and all combinations of all of the lights to get the blue to come back on and the only thing that worked was when I put the RGB USB ambient light back in and triggered it on with that.
 
#136 ·
A few questions Dr. T. If you dont mind.
I read your posts but want to be absolutely sure before I spend 750$ on the head unit. I have a 2017 EX.

1. Did you lose any functions ( lane watch, steering wheel controls? After install?

2. Any bezel required ?

3. Any wiring changes or harnesses ?

4. Software updates required?

5. Rating out of 10 now that your had it for a while.

Thanks !
 
#137 ·
before I spend 750$ on the head unit. I have a 2017 EX.
Unless those are Canadian dollar, last I checked it was around US$500 and since your car is a 2017 you could try the Maxca if you want to save money but it's not as fully featured (but does have CP/AA).

1. Did you lose any functions ( lane watch, steering wheel controls? After install?
None, everything works on my 2020. When I first got it the reverse camera did not work but I contacted them and they sent me a different wiring harness and it resolved the issue.

2. Any bezel required ?
The bezel comes with the head unit, it's completely plug and play.

3. Any wiring changes or harnesses ?
None, all connectors plugged into the factory harness including the USB but the microphone is changed to the aftermarket one.

4. Software updates required?
No updates to the car's system was required. Mine came with Android 10 and 11 is out now, I'm sure you could update if you wanted to do so, update the same as any other Google device over Wi-Fi.

5. Rating out of 10 now that your had it for a while.
The Dasaita itself (hardware) a 10, the Android 10 (operating system) a 10 because it loads fast, the Google Play (apps) a ? because I don't use them and the CarPlay a 9 which is why I really use the head unit.

I may make these posts about Dasaita with enthusiasm but it's really the Apple CarPlay that I'm using the head unit for and there are other head units that offer it. Dasaita just seems to be the best hardware with the least compatibility problems but I still think it's a bit over priced.
 
#138 ·
Unless those are Canadian dollar, last I checked it was around US$500 and since your car is a 2017 you could try the Maxca if you want to save money but it's not as fully featured (but does have CP/AA).



None, everything works on my 2020. When I first got it the reverse camera did not work but I contacted them and they sent me a different wiring harness and it resolved the issue.



The bezel comes with the head unit, it's completely plug and play.



None, all connectors plugged into the factory harness including the USB but the microphone is changed to the aftermarket one.



No updates to the car's system was required. Mine came with Android 10 and 11 is out now, I'm sure you could update if you wanted to do so, update the same as any other Google device over Wi-Fi.



The Dasaita itself (hardware) a 10, the Android 10 (operating system) a 10 because it loads fast, the Google Play (apps) a ? because I don't use them and the CarPlay a 9 which is why I really use the head unit.

I may make these posts about Dasaita with enthusiasm but it's really the Apple CarPlay that I'm using the head unit for and there are other head units that offer it. Dasaita just seems to be the best hardware with the least compatibility problems but I still think it's a bit over priced.
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Yup, it's in CDN. I might try the Dasaita website direct instead of Ali. Seems cheaper at 498 US.


I want something better than the stock HU for sound, AA would be awesome and if I can get those with the lane watch and back up camera working, perfect!
 
#139 ·
UPDATE: The latest model now includes the USB adapter, has HDMI and the screen is 9” instead of 8” in size.



They advertise this unit as having full stock functionality with both cameras and features. I can happily say that it is exactly what they say it is. I have a lot to say so read carefully if you are considering purchasing this unit. Hopefully I can help.

Brief rundown:
All the cameras work and the unit even retains the MPG and trip mpg history features. The unit also adds some features like graphical door ajar indicators. Plug and play with some configuration through a password protected factory settings menu. (password is 126). Steering wheel buttons work and are programmable. This thing is LEGIT!

Cameras:

With a little configuration they both work just fine. The Lane Assist camera has the distance lines programmed in to it so they display automatically. The reversing camera settings include options to show trajectory as well as a distance ruler too.

To properly route the signal for the Lane Assist camera in a USDM HRV EX I had to do the following:
"GO to Settings >Car >Factory Setting (password 126) >Other >Customer Version >Version 2"

In "Settings >Car >Extra Settings >Reversing Volume >On" or set the reverse volume to the desired attenuation. Otherwise as configured by the factory the audio will cut out when the reverse or Lane Assist cameras are active.

(The "Factory Setting" menu has a lot of other configurable options that are vehicle specific. Password: 126)


Installation:
The Dasaita is plug and play with a little common sense. Huge bundle of wires that will need to be zip tied and kept tidy, perhaps wrapped in foam to prevent rattling. Two harnesses did not plug in to anything, one with two green wires and a large gray plug and the other was a small blue DA plug (confirmed not needed by support rep.)

The dash trim pulls off easily and only 3 bolts hold the stock unit in to the dash. My first go around has me thinking that the new unit is intended to simply pressure fit in to the cavity where the original stereo came out. The original stereo's metal cage didn't fit the new Dasaita unit but I would prefer that it did. The Dasaita gets quite hot to the touch after a short period and a metal heatsink to the chassis would be preferred. I may end up installing a small fan to cool the unit.

GPS antenna: Even though my HRV is only an EX it still had a GPS antenna installed. It was directly above the stereo unit on a metal bracket with a short pigtail cable. I removed the original antenna from the bracket and installed the new Dasaita antenna in it's place. This worked out great and I had no trouble getting a fast and accurate GPS lock with google maps.

WiFi: get a bigger WiFi antenna. It made a big difference in speed and reception after I swapped it for one I had lying around. You either need an SMA Male Connector antenna or do what I did and cut a piece of short solid core wire to act as the center pin. MOST wifi antennas are SMA FEMALE so you won't likely have a Male one lying around.

USB: Included, but not shown in the product description, is one adapter labeled "Toyota usb adapter" which allows you to connect one of the units usb ports to the stock HRV under dash ports. Do yourself a favor and order a second one from Amazon to connect the second port. It won't fit perfectly but if you double check the orientation and just cram the plugs together it will work. Tested and verified.

HDMI: there is no HDMI, so the mostly useless port under your center console will be nonfunctional. I would be interested to see If one could obtain an additional USB port for this location to better utilize the Dasaita's third usb connection.

Speed and Responsiveness:
The specs seem to be true to the user experience, it is very responsive, fastest Android device I have ever owned. But then again I generally own 2+ year old phones anyway.

Sound quality:
Let me preface this by disclosing that I am an audio engineer and have spent the better part of a decade performing modifications to audio equipment to improve the audio path and quality on a commercial level. I have a very discerning ear, but I don't buy crazy expensive HI-FI equipment due to my practical nature and the law of diminishing returns. Great sound quality can be achieved without breaking the bank. Additionally, I have already upgraded the speakers in my HRV so I am getting the full benefits of a new headunit.

With the exception of Bluetooth (see below), the audio quality is where the unit has proven itself to me. The stock stereo has some terrible equalization profile applied to the audio at all times or the analog audio path consists of junk components. Having only has bass and treble controls you cannot correct the crappy audio quality in the stock hrv headunit. The Dasaita unit has a 9 point graphical EQ that can be set completely flat and is fairly transparent when cutting and boosting frequencies. My advice would be to mostly cut, not boost. For example if you want more bass, don't turn the bass up, turn the trebel down. This helps with headroom and Dynamics. I think that the unit produces great sounding audio to the speakers through the internal amplifier. However, like most internal amplifiers, the headroom leaves much to be desired. When you start turning up the volume to where the music gets "loud" the dynamic range is compressed and eventually starts to distort. This is true of most internal amplifiers of car head units. The great thing is that the Dasaita has proper front and rear RCA outputs for attaching a 4 channel amp and sub. I will likely install an amp down the road but the audio quality of the Dasaita will get me by until then for sure! The noise floor is a little bit higher than I would like, but only really a slight hiss that is noticeable when sitting still, when the car is in motion it is mostly masked by road noise. I guess I will find out down the road if this is the audio path or amplifier noise floor.

Bluetooth audio: I have not yet tested this unit with another Bluetooth audio device, but with my stock HTC One M8 the bluetooth audio streaming quality was COMPLETE GARBAGE! Unlistenable amounts of noise, crackles and distortion. Update: tested with an iPhone, same result. I will try different software.. So far this is my only gripe.

Software:
This is straight up ANDROID IN YOUR DASH! No restrictions, any app any time.
The stock music player is basically a proof of concept player. Download a better one ASAP.
The unit came preloaded with iGo Navigation which loaded up with French as the default language. I haven't put any time in to using this application because when I need to navigate I use Google Maps then Sygic Maps then Sygic Car Navigation (in that order of preference).
The stock launcher is junk but they do include a full licensed version of "Car Launcher AG" and I quite like it! Once configured it is a great dashboard interface.

Screen:
The 8" screen almost fills the entire opening on the dash, this is GLORIOUS! No more black bar around the screen! The screen is recessed in to the dash trim by a gloss black bezel. I get the impression that the angle was designed for right hand drive vehicles but it looks nice and clean. The color and contrast of the screen is great, so much better than stock.

Phone integration:
The provided apps and settings allow for making phone calls over bluetooth, but I haven't done much more than make a test call to check my voicemail.

I haven't spent a ton of time using the new unit so I may report back with updates as I become more familiar.
I would recommend this to anybody with an HRV and enough confidence to install it. VERY MUCH WORTH IT.
Anyone know how to enable lane switch camera for the Dasaita? I have a 2018 Honda hrv EX, but can’t find the answer anywhere
 
#140 ·
Dasaita can tell you how. I have an LX without that camera, so I can’t help. However, in the first post (that you quoted), did you read under “cameras” because he explained how to do it.
 
#145 ·
Okay, with the time difference it’s the weekend there, just be patient and give it some time. They worked with me for three months to resolve my rear camera issue. Your post here also could get a reply also.
 
#150 ·
Hi. This has been asked several times in this thread, post #139 most recently.

It’s either the settings, the CANBUS and/or the wire harness. Try the settings first, as instructed in the first post of this thread and then try the CANBUS settings and lastly contact Dasaita customer support.
 
#151 ·
I did an 8 hour drive recently and the Apple CarPlay really makes the car a blast to drive and helpful too. I made a music playlist for the trip, the maps were so helpful and it's safer to text and call over CarPlay. Again, the Dasaita is nice but it's the CarPlay that really brings the car alive.
 
#152 ·
I ordered this TV Tuner today from Dasaita. I’m not getting it for anything more than the purpose of being able to watch the local news during hurricane season when the electricity goes out.