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Watch out, Motor Trend reviews small CUVs and the CrossTrek comes out on top. Interestingly those that had problem with it and could never own one due to the exterior design and so called oil issues, sudden are amazed by the review. LOL ENJOY!

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/suvs/1506_the_big_test_2015_2016_subcompact_crossovers/

http://www.hrvforum.com/forum/505-h.../505-hrv-versus-competition/11426-big-test-2015-2016-subcompact-crossovers.html
Is the Crosstrek one of the cars you are considering buying? Is the oil issue a concern for you?
 
The cross trek was a GREAT test drive. Ultimately, they didn't have the level trim I wanted when it was time to buy.
If I end up hating the hrv(doubtful) I can always trade it in!
 
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The Crosstrek is a great vehicle. Know a guy who owns one and loves it. However, the engine is worst than the HRV. Meaning if you have issues with the HRV engine, you won't tolerate the Crosstrek.

I like how exterior design and oil issue cause some to cross it off their options list, but its almost as if since Motor Trend ranks it #1 , bam its such a great review and vehicle. Amazing how some are influenced so easily.

Interesting info from the article:

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The cross trek was a GREAT test drive. Ultimately, they didn't have the level trim I wanted when it was time to buy.
If I end up hating the hrv(doubtful) I can always trade it in!
 

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1) there literally were no cross treks when I went to buy- everyone was out, and I needed to get the sale done

2)If the Subaru salesman hadn't told me how valuable his time was, he would have had the sale and I would have waited the couple days for a dealer trade....
 
As the former owner of an over 200,000 mile Dodge Grand Caravan (that besides rust, was in perfect condition and relatively problem free over my ownership), you can't convince me the Subaru would likely be a bad, unreliable car. Chances are excellent that it will be a very good, reliable car.
 
Have to comment and agree that Subaru dealerships are fantastic. It is the only good dealership experience I've ever had.

My 15 WRX was still an oil burning, no starting, won't go into gear pig though.

I'd still have kept it if I wasn't moving 70 miles away from the closest dealer. I didn't even mind hanging out there. Going to "any" Honda is like having to visit the dentist where the old dr is mad at world & hates you for being there.
 
Watch out, Motor Trend reviews small CUVs and the CrossTrek comes out on top. Interestingly those that had problem with it and could never own one due to the exterior design and so called oil issues, sudden are amazed by the review. LOL ENJOY!

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/suvs/1506_the_big_test_2015_2016_subcompact_crossovers/

http://www.hrvforum.com/forum/505-h.../505-hrv-versus-competition/11426-big-test-2015-2016-subcompact-crossovers.html

And yet the Suby only gets 3 out of 5 stars. I wonder what that should tell us?
 
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Both are excellent vehicles, all comes down to your interests and preferences.


1) there literally were no cross treks when I went to buy- everyone was out, and I needed to get the sale done

2)If the Subaru salesman hadn't told me how valuable his time was, he would have had the sale and I would have waited the couple days for a dealer trade....
 
And your needs. I had to get a car that week...the HRV is like an old friend with a few fun perks.

We will see in a few years when I go to trade in- if honda gives the HRV a better motor, it'll be a better car.

Don't get me wrong- I do love my HRV, but the cross trek really impressed me too.
 
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Did you think the engine in the Crosstrek then was better than the HRV?

I test drove both vehicles and found the Crosstrek to be very appealing but the engine in the Crosstrek was a deal-breaker. However just like in the HRV engine selections were likely made in order to keep cost in line as well as achieving the corresponding gas mileage.

And your needs. I had to get a car that week...the HRV is like an old friend with a few fun perks.

We will see in a few years when I go to trade in- if honda gives the HRV a better motor, it'll be a better car.

Don't get me wrong- I do love my HRV, but the cross trek really impressed me too.
 
HRV is like driving a fit.. going uphill I have to floor it until it achieves its speed- I know the car is working hard...
I feel like both actually had the same acceleration, but the cross trek was no where near as loud in acceleration, you didn't know it was working so much.
cross trek gave a much smoother ride, especially over pot holes.

The Subaru is a much more floaty ride, the HRV, you feel the road.
 
Motortrend never "loved" the XV prior to the segment developing... I recall it consistently being rated with 3 stars. Now the segment is mature, saying "its the slowest but its the best" and putting it at #1 while knocking Honda down to #4 for being "slow and noisy" appears to be more personal sentiment than factual. I attribute this loyalty to the 'buzz' around Subaru right now combined with its so far preserved "niche status".

And all things aside, its absolutely ludicrous that Jeep's reliability pittance is being ignored when estimating repairs and maintenance.

https://www.cars.com/articles/2015/.../2015/02/toyota-gm-top-jd-power-dependability-study-fiat-chrysler-still-trails/

116 problems per 100 vehicles with Honda vs. 197 with Jeep and I'm supposed to believe repairs on the HRV will be higher than the Renegade? Keep smoking, Motortrend.
 
Motortrend never "loved" the XV prior to the segment developing... I recall it consistently being rated with 3 stars. Now the segment is mature, saying "its the slowest but its the best" and putting it at #1 while knocking Honda down to #4 for being "slow and noisy" appears to be more personal sentiment than factual. I attribute this loyalty to the 'buzz' around Subaru right now combined with its so far preserved "niche status".

And all things aside, its absolutely ludicrous that Jeep's reliability pittance is being ignored when estimating repairs and maintenance.

https://www.cars.com/articles/2015/.../2015/02/toyota-gm-top-jd-power-dependability-study-fiat-chrysler-still-trails/

116 problems per 100 vehicles with Honda vs. 197 with Jeep and I'm supposed to believe repairs on the HRV will be higher than the Renegade? Keep smoking, Motortrend.
The authors did slam the Renegade pretty hard on it's transmission which reflects news reports of it's failures.


I think if they didn't rank them, and that has been the most complaints about this review, everyone would like this article. That is what made it good to me.....the plus and minuses of each vehicle seemed pretty spot on.


The rankings didn't matter to me that much. I usually consider that most reviewers are speed and performance nuts, which makes them pick their favorites accordingly. (And most likely to not put as much value on the HRV'S excellent cargo capacity). They pretty much admitted that in the article which is another reason I liked it.
 
Discussion starter · #38 ·
Of the bunch, you cannot go wrong with the Crosstrek or HRV. Although similar, different in their own ways and therefore great for the customer.

Most interesting thing is the HRV has the shortest wheelbase, yet the most cargo volume for which a vehicle like this is intended:

2016 Honda HR-V AWD55.9/23.2 cu ft 2015 Subaru XV Crosstrek51.9/22.3 cu ft 2015 Chevrolet Trax LT AWD48.4/18.7 cu ft 2015 Jeep Renegade Latitude 4x4 50.8/18.5 cu ft 2015 Nissan Juke SL AWD 35.9/10.5 cu ft 2016 Mazda CX-3 AWD 42.3/10.1 cu ft


Motortrend never "loved" the XV prior to the segment developing... I recall it consistently being rated with 3 stars. Now the segment is mature, saying "its the slowest but its the best" and putting it at #1 while knocking Honda down to #4 for being "slow and noisy" appears to be more personal sentiment than factual. I attribute this loyalty to the 'buzz' around Subaru right now combined with its so far preserved "niche status".

And all things aside, its absolutely ludicrous that Jeep's reliability pittance is being ignored when estimating repairs and maintenance.

https://www.cars.com/articles/2015/.../2015/02/toyota-gm-top-jd-power-dependability-study-fiat-chrysler-still-trails/

116 problems per 100 vehicles with Honda vs. 197 with Jeep and I'm supposed to believe repairs on the HRV will be higher than the Renegade? Keep smoking, Motortrend.
 
I just got back from test driving the Crosstrek. I like it, and now I am so confused! I did not get a chance to take it out onto the highway as I was test driving around 5pm. I may go back tomorrow to take it out on the highway.

I brought a smaller dog crate with me, one that I bought to use for when I get my new vehicle. My other crates are 28 inches tall and would not fit into the Crosstrek, but my 24 inch height crate fits in there just fine. I like the fact that the rear inside sides are molded plastic, and not whatever the fabric is that Honda is using inside of the HR-V. But I LOVE the magic seats! The seats in the Crosstrek do lay almost flat, and there is a little bump down from the seats folded, into the cargo area (if that makes sense).

What I really like with the Crosstrek is I can get the eyesight package, and true car says it should be $26,990, about $1500 off MSRP. My neighbor who is the sales manager, was not there, he had already left for the day. I can see what kind of price he will give me. I am 54, will be 55 next month. I plan on keeping this vehicle for a long time (assuming I live that long). Knowing that my reaction times may slow down as I age, having the eyesight package is a nice perk.

There are things I like better about both vehicles, so now it is down to a decision between the two. I like the lane watch and the magic seats in the HR-V. I like the eyesight package in the Crosstrek. If only I lived in CANADA I could have it all!! :D
 
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