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Just a few thoughts to add to this conversation. We recently purchased a 2015 Crosstrek Premium with EyeSight and had the dealer add after-market leather. Our runner up was the HR-V. The Subie AWD pushed us toward the Crosstrek. We love to hike, camp, and ski. Here are my comments about both in different areas:

Exterior Appearance:
Both look good. I think the HR-V looks much better than the CR-V, and i think the Crosstrek looks better than its Impreza siblings. I appreciate the roof racks being standard on the Subie. Tie.

Interior Appearance:
I think I expected less from the Subie and more from the V, so I was disappointed with the V's interior. It's weird things, like the door panels in the V seemed like something from a 70's budget car. But the plastic in the Subie didn't bug me. The Subie also seemed more open inside, I think due to more consistent headroom throughout the cabin. The V had "cut-outs" in the ceiling to add headroom, which is fine, but that left other parts of the ceiling a bit lower. That design, coupled with the straight-drop door panels, made me feel like I was in a cave in the V. Slight win for the Subie.

Comfort:
Both have fairly basic seating. The Subie does not have a power seat option or lumbar adjustment. Win for the V.

Interior Function:
The magic seats for the V are wonderful. More vehicles should do that. The rear hatch seat releases were also a nice touch. Everything works nicely in the Crosstrek, but nothing stands out like it does in the V. Solid win for the V.

Interior Space:
In terms of seating space, the usable headroom, legroom, and kneeroom is significantly better in the Subie. Our son is 6'6" and fits easily in the front or back seat of the Subie with room for another adult either in front of him or behind him. That is not the case in the V. Moreover, those ceiling cut-outs in the V really make it so he feels like his head has to be in a certain spot in the vehicle for it to work for him. In terms of storage space, both are good. I think the V has slightly more cargo room, but not enough to make a functional difference. Solid win for the Crosstrek.

Electronics:
We got the upgraded 7" infotainment system in the Crosstrek. In my eyes, it was nicer and more user-friendly than the system in the V that we tested. The backup camera was also bigger and nicer than in the V. I liked the blind-spot warning in the V but also appreciate the lane departure warning and adaptive cruise on the Crosstrek. Slight win for the Crosstrek.

Gas Mileage:
I get 36mpg on the highway with the Subie and 27mpg in city, with moderate driving. With "hard" driving, I get 25mpg in the city and 33mpg on the highway. I think the V probably beats it, but not by much. I'm averaging 29mph overall in the 3 weeks I've had it (mostly city driving so far). I've been pleased (last vehicle was a 4Runner; so this is a major step up in gas mileage). Based on reports, slight win for the V.

Acceleration:
Ouch. Neither one is particularly impressive. However, both have enough zip to get to highway speed and merge/pass safely. I saw a number of reviews that criticized the Crosstrek for being under-powered but then praised other vehicles that had even worse acceleration. I'm here to tell you, I'd like more oomph, but it really isn't bad at all. Tie.

Driving Quality:
Both my wife and I preferred the feel of the Crosstrek. Both are very competent drivers. I felt like I had better visibility in the Crosstrek. Slight edge to Crosstrek, but YMMV

Ride Quality:
Both were actually pretty good. I think the V is even a little smoother than the Crosstrek, but but are comfortable and composed when on pavement. Maybe a slight edge to the V.

Reliability:
Subie has overtaken Honda in Consumer Reports, despite some fears I saw earlier about oil consumption. FWIW, our Odyssey has an ongoing oil consumption issue that the dealership has been unable to resolve, but I still think the Odyssey is the best minivan on the road. The Subie has been out for three model years. This is the first year for the V. I have slightly more trust in the Crosstrek, but both should be good. Tie.

Safety:
With EyeSight, the Crosstrek is a Top Safety Pick Plus and has a 5-star crash rating. The V also gets a 5-star rating and is a Top Safety Pick. Maybe a very slight win for the Crosstrek.

Other:
As noted initially the Subie AWD was a nice plus for us.

And that's what I've got. I think both are nice vehicles in the segment. I enjoy my Crosstrek, although the HR-V was tempting. I think the V is better-suited for some folks and the Crosstrek is better suited for others.
 
Discussion starter · #64 ·
Sounds like a great vehicle. Can you post some pics for those of us trying to compare? Thanks so much! :)

Just a few thoughts to add to this conversation. We recently purchased a 2015 Crosstrek Premium with EyeSight and had the dealer add after-market leather. Our runner up was the HR-V. The Subie AWD pushed us toward the Crosstrek. We love to hike, camp, and ski. Here are my comments about both in different areas:

Exterior Appearance:
Both look good. I think the HR-V looks much better than the CR-V, and i think the Crosstrek looks better than its Impreza siblings. I appreciate the roof racks being standard on the Subie. Tie.

Interior Appearance:
I think I expected less from the Subie and more from the V, so I was disappointed with the V's interior. It's weird things, like the door panels in the V seemed like something from a 70's budget car. But the plastic in the Subie didn't bug me. The Subie also seemed more open inside, I think due to more consistent headroom throughout the cabin. The V had "cut-outs" in the ceiling to add headroom, which is fine, but that left other parts of the ceiling a bit lower. That design, coupled with the straight-drop door panels, made me feel like I was in a cave in the V. Slight win for the Subie.

Comfort:
Both have fairly basic seating. The Subie does not have a power seat option or lumbar adjustment. Win for the V.

Interior Function:
The magic seats for the V are wonderful. More vehicles should do that. The rear hatch seat releases were also a nice touch. Everything works nicely in the Crosstrek, but nothing stands out like it does in the V. Solid win for the V.

Interior Space:
In terms of seating space, the usable headroom, legroom, and kneeroom is significantly better in the Subie. Our son is 6'6" and fits easily in the front or back seat of the Subie with room for another adult either in front of him or behind him. That is not the case in the V. Moreover, those ceiling cut-outs in the V really make it so he feels like his head has to be in a certain spot in the vehicle for it to work for him. In terms of storage space, both are good. I think the V has slightly more cargo room, but not enough to make a functional difference. Solid win for the Crosstrek.

Electronics:
We got the upgraded 7" infotainment system in the Crosstrek. In my eyes, it was nicer and more user-friendly than the system in the V that we tested. The backup camera was also bigger and nicer than in the V. I liked the blind-spot warning in the V but also appreciate the lane departure warning and adaptive cruise on the Crosstrek. Slight win for the Crosstrek.

Gas Mileage:
I get 36mpg on the highway with the Subie and 27mpg in city, with moderate driving. With "hard" driving, I get 25mpg in the city and 33mpg on the highway. I think the V probably beats it, but not by much. I'm averaging 29mph overall in the 3 weeks I've had it (mostly city driving so far). I've been pleased (last vehicle was a 4Runner; so this is a major step up in gas mileage). Based on reports, slight win for the V.

Acceleration:
Ouch. Neither one is particularly impressive. However, both have enough zip to get to highway speed and merge/pass safely. I saw a number of reviews that criticized the Crosstrek for being under-powered but then praised other vehicles that had even worse acceleration. I'm here to tell you, I'd like more oomph, but it really isn't bad at all. Tie.

Driving Quality:
Both my wife and I preferred the feel of the Crosstrek. Both are very competent drivers. I felt like I had better visibility in the Crosstrek. Slight edge to Crosstrek, but YMMV

Ride Quality:
Both were actually pretty good. I think the V is even a little smoother than the Crosstrek, but but are comfortable and composed when on pavement. Maybe a slight edge to the V.

Reliability:
Subie has overtaken Honda in Consumer Reports, despite some fears I saw earlier about oil consumption. FWIW, our Odyssey has an ongoing oil consumption issue that the dealership has been unable to resolve, but I still think the Odyssey is the best minivan on the road. The Subie has been out for three model years. This is the first year for the V. I have slightly more trust in the Crosstrek, but both should be good. Tie.

Safety:
With EyeSight, the Crosstrek is a Top Safety Pick Plus and has a 5-star crash rating. The V also gets a 5-star rating and is a Top Safety Pick. Maybe a very slight win for the Crosstrek.

Other:
As noted initially the Subie AWD was a nice plus for us.

And that's what I've got. I think both are nice vehicles in the segment. I enjoy my Crosstrek, although the HR-V was tempting. I think the V is better-suited for some folks and the Crosstrek is better suited for others.
 
Discussion starter · #65 ·
Honda already has that in the HRV Selfie edition as those cameras serve multiple purposes. :D

Lol hahahaha. I could see KIMK floating down the highway sleeping with the eyesight beeping... I wish the eyesight could see you sleeping and send a Electric shock to the front seat to wake ya up. Im going to email subaru right now to get the ball rolling..
 
I dont care what C.Reports say Subaru is no where on the same level honda is. My sister has a fully loaded 14 outback limited 2.5 and it been in the shop more times then i could count. Nav not working right, power window motor in driver side window stop working , oil light going on in between oil changes, thats just a few. And that damm eyesight if the thing dont see then lines in the road or there faded it starts beeping. Now i have a 2003 civic and a 2010 crv and both are rock soild.

Go to the xv forums and theres 24 full pages of problems. And yes subaru still has the oild problem just search 2015 subaru oil consumtion problems..
 
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Ouch! Hope the Crosstrek isn't the same.

I know through Costco you can get all Subaru's, including the Crosstrek, $500 under invoice, so the base Crosstrek has ALOT of value in it, but then even at MSRP, so does the HRV.


I dont care what C.Reports say Subaru is no where on the same level honda is. My sister has a fully loaded 14 outback limited 2.5 and it been in the shop more times then i could count. Nav not working right, power window motor in driver side window stop working , oil light going on in between oil changes, thats just a few. And that damm eyesight if the thing dont see then lines in the road or there faded it starts beeping. Now i have a 2003 civic and a 2010 crv and both are rock soild.

Go to the xv forums and theres 24 full pages of problems. And yes subaru still has the oild problem just search 2015 subaru oil consumtion problems..
 
I think you should figure out a way to pull off the road every 20 minutes or so then.
From what you say, I think the cross trek has features that MIGHT prot ct and help you- but I actually think it'd be easier to fall asleep with the smooth ride of the cross trek than the HRV.
If I feel myself getting sleepy, I do pull over, and I sit there, and am wide awake. When I start driving again I get sleepy after a little while, pull over again. Sometimes I get out and just walk around. I try to make sure I have some snacks to munch on, especially something crunchy like an apple, that works well to keep me from feeling sleepy. Coffee or soda with caffeine. It only happens when I have had a long day where I got up very early, with a long drive home.

I drove both the Crosstrek and the HR-V today, back to back drives......the Crosstrek is a smoother ride! I like the HR-V also though.....it feels like driving a car.
 
Just a few thoughts to add to this conversation. We recently purchased a 2015 Crosstrek Premium with EyeSight and had the dealer add after-market leather. Our runner up was the HR-V. The Subie AWD pushed us toward the Crosstrek. We love to hike, camp, and ski. Here are my comments about both in different areas:

Exterior Appearance:
Both look good. I think the HR-V looks much better than the CR-V, and i think the Crosstrek looks better than its Impreza siblings. I appreciate the roof racks being standard on the Subie. Tie.

Interior Appearance:
I think I expected less from the Subie and more from the V, so I was disappointed with the V's interior. It's weird things, like the door panels in the V seemed like something from a 70's budget car. But the plastic in the Subie didn't bug me. The Subie also seemed more open inside, I think due to more consistent headroom throughout the cabin. The V had "cut-outs" in the ceiling to add headroom, which is fine, but that left other parts of the ceiling a bit lower. That design, coupled with the straight-drop door panels, made me feel like I was in a cave in the V. Slight win for the Subie.

Comfort:
Both have fairly basic seating. The Subie does not have a power seat option or lumbar adjustment. Win for the V.

Interior Function:
The magic seats for the V are wonderful. More vehicles should do that. The rear hatch seat releases were also a nice touch. Everything works nicely in the Crosstrek, but nothing stands out like it does in the V. Solid win for the V.

Interior Space:
In terms of seating space, the usable headroom, legroom, and kneeroom is significantly better in the Subie. Our son is 6'6" and fits easily in the front or back seat of the Subie with room for another adult either in front of him or behind him. That is not the case in the V. Moreover, those ceiling cut-outs in the V really make it so he feels like his head has to be in a certain spot in the vehicle for it to work for him. In terms of storage space, both are good. I think the V has slightly more cargo room, but not enough to make a functional difference. Solid win for the Crosstrek.

Electronics:
We got the upgraded 7" infotainment system in the Crosstrek. In my eyes, it was nicer and more user-friendly than the system in the V that we tested. The backup camera was also bigger and nicer than in the V. I liked the blind-spot warning in the V but also appreciate the lane departure warning and adaptive cruise on the Crosstrek. Slight win for the Crosstrek.

Gas Mileage:
I get 36mpg on the highway with the Subie and 27mpg in city, with moderate driving. With "hard" driving, I get 25mpg in the city and 33mpg on the highway. I think the V probably beats it, but not by much. I'm averaging 29mph overall in the 3 weeks I've had it (mostly city driving so far). I've been pleased (last vehicle was a 4Runner; so this is a major step up in gas mileage). Based on reports, slight win for the V.

Acceleration:
Ouch. Neither one is particularly impressive. However, both have enough zip to get to highway speed and merge/pass safely. I saw a number of reviews that criticized the Crosstrek for being under-powered but then praised other vehicles that had even worse acceleration. I'm here to tell you, I'd like more oomph, but it really isn't bad at all. Tie.

Driving Quality:
Both my wife and I preferred the feel of the Crosstrek. Both are very competent drivers. I felt like I had better visibility in the Crosstrek. Slight edge to Crosstrek, but YMMV

Ride Quality:
Both were actually pretty good. I think the V is even a little smoother than the Crosstrek, but but are comfortable and composed when on pavement. Maybe a slight edge to the V.

Reliability:
Subie has overtaken Honda in Consumer Reports, despite some fears I saw earlier about oil consumption. FWIW, our Odyssey has an ongoing oil consumption issue that the dealership has been unable to resolve, but I still think the Odyssey is the best minivan on the road. The Subie has been out for three model years. This is the first year for the V. I have slightly more trust in the Crosstrek, but both should be good. Tie.

Safety:
With EyeSight, the Crosstrek is a Top Safety Pick Plus and has a 5-star crash rating. The V also gets a 5-star rating and is a Top Safety Pick. Maybe a very slight win for the Crosstrek.

Other:
As noted initially the Subie AWD was a nice plus for us.

And that's what I've got. I think both are nice vehicles in the segment. I enjoy my Crosstrek, although the HR-V was tempting. I think the V is better-suited for some folks and the Crosstrek is better suited for others.
Thanks for your perspective!

I like the looks of both, but for me the HR-V wins when comparing the outside. I was able to test drive both back to back today and I think the Crosstrek has a smoother ride. The HR-V is a bit stiffer, and feels more like driving a car. Both are fun to drive. Saleswoman suggested bringing the HR-V to my house so I could put my crate in the back and let my Golden get in there. She put her front paws right up on the sill, something she will rarely do with my Cherokee, so she liked it. :) Oh, and the HR-V sure did look good in my driveway! Am going to do the same tomorrow with the Crosstrek, if they will let me at the dealer. The height is the same on the Crosstrek as on my Jeep, so will be curious to see if she does the same.
 
Discussion starter · #72 ·
They both appear to drive very well and are similar. The HRV feels more refined with more comfortable seats. :nerd:

If I feel myself getting sleepy, I do pull over, and I sit there, and am wide awake. When I start driving again I get sleepy after a little while, pull over again. Sometimes I get out and just walk around. I try to make sure I have some snacks to munch on, especially something crunchy like an apple, that works well to keep me from feeling sleepy. Coffee or soda with caffeine. It only happens when I have had a long day where I got up very early, with a long drive home.

I drove both the Crosstrek and the HR-V today, back to back drives......the Crosstrek is a smoother ride! I like the HR-V also though.....it feels like driving a car.
 
Discussion starter · #73 ·
Did the Crosstrek feel bigger? Engine performance?

If I feel myself getting sleepy, I do pull over, and I sit there, and am wide awake. When I start driving again I get sleepy after a little while, pull over again. Sometimes I get out and just walk around. I try to make sure I have some snacks to munch on, especially something crunchy like an apple, that works well to keep me from feeling sleepy. Coffee or soda with caffeine. It only happens when I have had a long day where I got up very early, with a long drive home.

I drove both the Crosstrek and the HR-V today, back to back drives......the Crosstrek is a smoother ride! I like the HR-V also though.....it feels like driving a car.
 
Discussion starter · #74 ·
The recall is concerning. Again, nice thing with the Lanewatch is you can see exactly what's there and then make the best decision. ;)

Exactly my impression- I bought the HRV. The ex, it has lots of fun stuff, and I love that I still feel like I am driving a car
See hrv4me guys posting on the eyesight RECALL
 
Discussion starter · #75 ·
Ah you got your answer then, go with what your Golden thinks...sounds like good instinct ;););)

Thanks for your perspective!

I like the looks of both, but for me the HR-V wins when comparing the outside. I was able to test drive both back to back today and I think the Crosstrek has a smoother ride. The HR-V is a bit stiffer, and feels more like driving a car. Both are fun to drive. Saleswoman suggested bringing the HR-V to my house so I could put my crate in the back and let my Golden get in there. She put her front paws right up on the sill, something she will rarely do with my Cherokee, so she liked it. :) Oh, and the HR-V sure did look good in my driveway! Am going to do the same tomorrow with the Crosstrek, if they will let me at the dealer. The height is the same on the Crosstrek as on my Jeep, so will be curious to see if she does the same.
 
Did the Crosstrek feel bigger? Engine performance?
I think the Crosstrek feels bigger when driving, has more of an SUV feel. HR-V feels more like a car to me.

Engine performance seems adequate in both to me. I did use the brake hold today with the HR-V....had not used it before on my test drives.
 
I really dont think you should be driving at all if you need a car to brake for you if you fall asleep...... What is this world coming too....
I do not "need" it to brake for me, but the potential is there, that in the unlikely event that I would have a problem staying awake, that it could prevent a possible collision. I am also very careful with this as I had stated, pulling over frequently if I am feeling sleepy. It is not that I am tired at the time, it is sitting behind the wheel, mostly on the highway, after a long day that makes me sleepy.
 
While it might be rude to ask, do you have a ballpark on what the Subie cost you when all said and done? No exact number needed, just an idea.

Sticker was $26,400 before the leather. We got it for a bit under 26k and got the leather for no additional fee.

Other options were crossbars, splashguards, upgraded 7-inch touch screen infotainment system with 6 speakers, seatback protectors, rubber cargo tray, bumper protective strip, auto-dimming mirror with home link, and all-weather floor mats. I may have left something off.

Just for kicks, I added the 100k full warranty and dealer maintenance plan, which gives you a $500 discount the next time you buy a Subiev (also saves over regular costs, anyway).

I saw someone else asked for pix. Editing to try to post a pic.

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